Wednesday 12th I’ll be operating as EA4/M6GYU/P and activating. EL Ejido. Ea4/md-057 west of Madrid which has only been activated once before. (I hope there’s no good reason for being activated only the once !)
Quite excited - and no need to dress in anything other than shorts , T shirt and carry enough water in the 35c day temperatures…..
Just had a nosey on google maps and that all looks to be fenced off. And theres a note on sotlas saying the same so that might not be worth trying unless it’s very near you.
It’s a Private Estate!
Its perimeter is fenced.
Thanks for spotting that. I knew it was too good to be true. I’ll do Almenara /MD/046 instead . It’s only a short walk away .
I’ll also amend my alert in the morning
When did Foundation Licence holders get CEPT overseas permission?
It hasn’t happened yet as far as I’m aware.
All resources I’ve seen quote the need for a UK Full Licence to operate under CEPT.
Before you start getting on your high horses. I have written permission from the Spanish authorities to operate. Any foundation or intermediate license holder can apply. Just for clarification this has nothing to do with CEPT.
If I have time I’ll post the authorisation tomorrow. NB it’s in Spanish 
Hi Colin,
Intermediates have been able to apply for a licence from the Spanish authorities for well over a year now. I arranged it via EURAO for my wife when we visited, before she got her full.
The news article suggests anyone can apply “regardless of licence class” too, but I never attempted it when Nic had a Foundation licence, only Intermediate, and the licence was issued very quickly.
73, Simon
Good luck David 
73, Simon
Yeah, I had noted in the past that there were separate agreements/ arrangements outwith CEPT. I guess it’s totally up to the administration of each area as to whom they grant a licence to.
Andy’s point was that he wasn’t aware of any change under CEPT - and as far as I’m aware, there isn’t.
73, Colin
Hi Colin
Apparently some of the nay sayers don’t like the privilege of Foundation and Intermediate licensees operating outside the UK unless they have the full licence! Nowt as funny as folk…
73 Phil G4OBK (QRT due to move of QTH)
It’s not a case of high horses but a simple fact that if someone does some kind of activation/chase where others think that person is operating outwith their licence then the SOTA MT will get informed. Sometimes it’s " can you check if this guy is legal" and sometimes “this guy is cheating”. We end up checking them all. Often it’s ignorance of the law or stupidity. It’s almost never bloody-minded disregarding the law.
So from experience seeing a UK FL about to operate with what looks a CEPT callsign, we (the MT) need to check that the operation is OK in case CEPT rules have changed or as in this case, a special licence can be obtained. We have had plenty of M3/M6 stations activating abroad in the past who didn’t know their licence did not allow that and have had to delete their activations. Hence needing to know what the latest CEPT rules are.
We had a complaint of a VK ham operating in the USA recently without the correct grade CEPT licence. It looked completely unlicenced till digging showed changes to FCC rules on visiting ham licences. Something so very well kept hidden that quite a few US hams were unaware off. We also had operation from Arthur’s Seat recently that was without permission. Scotland allows operation just about anywhere with no need to check with the landowner. Apart from Arthur’s Seat mainly because the summit is in the King’s garden. Permission is trivial to obtain but is needed. Again the MT were informed by people concerned that regular operation without permission could see all future operation banned.
So the MT try to keep on top of all this to ensure all people are playing by the rules.
As an aside, the purpose of CEPT operation for hams was to reduce the bureaucracy of reciprocal licences being issued and / or charged for. The licensing bodies all agreed the licence level needed such that the holder would have sufficient clue to be able to operate in different countries without causing havoc on the bands and that no paperwork was needed to allow this. To now see these same licensing bodies creating extra paperwork by allowing non-CEPT licence holders to apply for reciprocal licences suggests the bureaucrats were not fully employed spending our taxes 
Nice to meet you David with nice Sigs on 20m today
Funnily enough, I activated Arthur’s Seat GM/SS-272 this afternoon. Of course, I obtained the necessary written permission in advance, and it was a really easy process - and the guy from the rangers’ office I dealt with was incredibly friendly and encouraging.
There were as many humans on Arthur’s Seat summit as there were flying ants on North Berwick Law earlier in the day! The human tourist traffic, combined with the rocky terrain on Arthur’s Seat, inspired me to go pegless - and support my mast using my rucksack, the terrain, my Leki poles, and my body!
Qualification, and the 2m SSB Challenge multiplier was easy on Arthur’s Seat, but not so on North Berwick Law. 32 minutes it took to get the 4 contacts - after which the entire AR population of Edinburgh descended on frequency…!
Andy
Perhaps the MT need a system to keep up to date with developments.
there was a post about this very subject a few months ago. Perhaps you’d like to read it?
Eric
It was nice to hear you too.
It’s been a long time since I last heard you on SOTA.
He did. As did I.
Where do we apply for this temporary licence? Do you have a link?
Fraser
I’ll explain how I went about it when I’m back in UK with access to a proper keyboard and the email address / s etc. Im not very good at doing this stuff on my phone anyway.
Andy
Are you suggesting that the Foundation Licence is insufficient in that it does not equip someone to operate on the air without causing havoc or chaos ?
