Warm Batteries and Hands!

As winter sets in, I’ve really started to notice my radio battery life dropping off a cliff. As you will know, cold weather is brutal on LiPo and Li-ion cells — their internal resistance increases as the temperature falls, which means reduced capacity and shorter operating times.

When we were working on the balloon project earlier in the year, Dave G1JKS solved this problem neatly by using a USB-powered hand warmer to keep the batteries and electronics at a stable temperature. I’d only ever used the old-school chemical warmers before — the little pouches you ‘clicked’ to activate — so I hadn’t realised how good modern rechargeable warmers had become.

I ordered a pair from Amazon for £15.98, just to test the idea, and early results are encouraging. They are tiny and have three heat settings, and even the lowest one is easily warm enough for hands or for keeping gear cosy. They take around 3½ hours to fully charge (each has a 3500mAh internal battery) and they’re rated for 8+ hours of use. So far I’ve run them for over three hours without any drop in performance.

Right now, I’ve tucked one inside a mitt and the other into my LiPo battery case — and both are doing a great job of keeping the cold at bay and the voltage up. For SOTA or any winter field work, this might be one of the simplest, cheapest upgrades you can make.


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I recklessly keep my Li-Ion inside my trouser pocket. I don’t suffer from cold hands, so that helps too.

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Flashadder comes to mind.:canoe:… my batteries are a bit big for that. I usually use 2x 5200mAh

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I could have done with some of those the other week when I activated Pendle Hill. Was a tad cold up there!. We’ve got some battery powered hand warmers at work bit I’ve not seen how much they are. Might invest in a few.

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Interesting…. So Interesting I’ve ordered a similar pair. Should arrive today.

I’ve suffered with the sudden “dead battery” issue in winter too.

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Ironically, I took a pack of chemical warmers with me on an activation last week, for this very reason. But I ended up using them for my hands :joy:

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If the problem is keeping a battery warm, it might be possible to use the battery itself to feed a suitable resistive load?

Obviously caution would be required to avoid hotspots, over discharging etc, and maybe the self contained hand warmers are a simpler and safer solution.

Just thinking aloud, though…..

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High capacity batteries do come with built in self heating pads. I have them on a narrowboat. It would be interesting to see how these work.

Martin

Here’s an idea.

Use the hand warmers to power the radio.

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There are some handwarmers that use the battery as a powerbank… but taking your idea one step further i am picturing a steam turbine affair.

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No fossil fuels allowed for SOTA!

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He may have a pair of DiLithium crystals on there and an adjustment mechanism to adjust the spacing so he can control the matter/antimatter reaction rate and thus the heat output. It’s how I’d do it.

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Not even an external combustion engine ?

I have a little Mamod steam engine from when I was a boy. I wonder if I could hook it up to a wee dynamo or generator to power the radio ?

If not sota maybe pota or chasing.

Just to see if I can !

Andy

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He could be burning wood.

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Burn the Li-Po’s for a higher energy output. Also fossil free.

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Except for those burnt to fuel the extraction and manufacturing processes.

Or llama dung.

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How about a radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG)

Both power and heat, what more could you ask for?

Added bonus that you may get that 3rd hand you always needed when on a summit.

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A bit heavy to carry to a summit but at least you could operate almost indefinitely without needing to recharge your batteries.

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Hmm.

Would a candle powered radio be against the spirit of SOTA? Combustion still.

I guess it almost gets into the electric car argument - they’re clean during use, but charging and manufacturing is not necessarily clean.

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Add a little camp stove thingy and a Moka pot bubbling away next on it next to the steam thing for extra greatness!

We have a few windmills near here, proper windmills, not wind turbines. We do MOTA up there sometimes. I wonder could you power a MOTA field day with one of the windmills and make a sack of flour at the same time?