i wouldn’t know gerald i’m from maccesfield n chesher
But you couldn’t spell it Sean, so we’ve sent you to live somewhere where there’s no point even trying to spell, let alone say most of the placenames!
Good to speak to you on the air recently old pal!
Tom M1EYP
In reply to M1EYP:
i wouldn’t know gerald i’m from maccesfield n chesher
But you couldn’t spell it Sean, so we’ve sent you to live somewhere
where there’s no point even trying to spell, let alone say most of the
placenames!
LOL…
Mind you, Karen is brilliant at pronouncing Welsh summit names, it’s as if she were born in Wales!
73 Mike
2E0YYY
SOTA, if nothing else, has taught a lot of us how to pronounce Welsh language hill names. Not Russ M6RGF though, who mentioned “Why Golfa” to me not so long ago.
Sorry Russ!
Tom M1EYP
In reply to M1EYP:
SOTA, if nothing else, has taught a lot of us how to pronounce Welsh
language hill names.
With the exception of GW/NW-031 Esgeiriau Gwynion, of course. Even Karen refers to this one as Squidgy Onion 
73 Mike
2E0YYY
In reply to 2E0YYY:
Esgeiriau Gwynion? What’s the problem with that? Ess-gare-ya Guwin-yon near enough, perhaps a fully paid up Welshman instead of a three-quarters like myself can come up with a better transliteration?
73
Brian G8ADD
PS Welsh is a doddle compared to Gaelic - even the Gaels argue about their pronounciation!
In reply to M1EYP:
I still call it Why Golfa…until they change the spelling to E Golva.
See theres nothing wrong with your long term memory since your op Hi Hi.
Catch you soon
M0RGF
In reply to M6RGF:
Sorry Tom that should have read
Catch you soon
M6RGF
Good lord for one minute when I looked at that, thought it was time to book myself in for my labotomy.
In reply to M6RGF:
Look what you’ve started Mike, hehe. I wonder what else sucks? Talking about the welsh language, how on earth do you turn a hidden dip, into a pant cud??
73s John M6BLV
In reply to 2E0YYY:
With the exception of GW/NW-031 Esgeiriau Gwynion, of course. Even
Karen refers to this one as Squidgy Onion
Lol. I’m sure you’ll agree Mickey that my pet/hate name for it has much to do with the walk! (I’ve listened to Leri and Aled and my actual pronunciation of that one is, surprisingly, not far off the mark - sadly minus that lovely Welsh lilt).
I spent holidays on the Lleyn Peninsula for 30 years so learnt some of the basic rules of Welsh pronunciation and Neil had lived in North Wales for over 30 years so he has been a great help.
Pronunciation of Scottish hills however is a totally different matter (despite having relatives, including grandparents, from places like Rutherglen, Newton Mearns, Elgin and Nairn) 
73
Karen
In reply to M6RGF:
I still call it Why Golfa…until they change the spelling to E Golva.
It is spelt “Eee Golva” you iggerant Sassenach as it’s written in Welsh not English.
It’s quite obvious to understand where Thomas Carlyle was coming from when asked the population of England and replied “Thirty millions, mostly fools.” Nothing has changed much in 170 years!
Andy
MM0FMF
In reply to 2E0XYL:
Lol. I’m sure you’ll agree Mickey that my pet/hate name for it has
much to do with the walk! (I’ve listened to Leri and Aled and my
actual pronunciation of that one is, surprisingly, not far off the
mark - sadly minus that lovely Welsh lilt).
From G/SP-004 Shining Tor, I’ve actually worked the Welsh operator who lives in…
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwll-llantysiliogogogoch (his callsign escapes me, anyone know it?) On both occasions we’ve worked, he gave me the full pronunciation.
I didn’t bother asking him to spell it phonetically, as I only had a 22Ah SLAB with me!
73 Mike
2E0YYY
In reply to 2E0YYY:
I always enjoyed walking up Moel Elephant.
Way back in 1988, I was working in the pit orchestra for a pantomime at the Library Theatre in Luton. There were two Welsh comedians in the cast who did a sketch about Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. By the end of four weeks, each containing three performances per day, six days a week, I had learned how to say it, and it remains a “party piece” to this day!
Tom M1EYP
In reply to MM0FMF:
It’s quite obvious to understand where Thomas Carlyle was coming from when asked the population of England and replied “Thirty millions, mostly fools.” Nothing has changed much in 170 years!
Thus spake he that has moved north of the border! In doing so did you really expect us down here to consider you exempt or do you consider yourself to be in the “mostly” category?
73, Gerald G4OIG
In reply to M1EYP:
Two SOTA activators had stopped for lunch in a small village in Wales and were arguing about the correct pronunciation of the village name.
To settle a bet they called over the waitress and one of the men said
“Please pronounce the name of this place, very slowlyâ€.
The girl looked a bit surprised but, slowly and distinctly said
"MAC - DON - ALDSâ€
You should have saved that one for the news Roy!
In reply to G4OIG:
Thus spake he that has moved north of the border!
Just because the English try to use English pronunciation rules on Gaelic/Scottish/Welsh words doesn’t mean the Scots don’t use local rules on English words with hilarious consequences.
Being of recent mixed decent, I can flip my loyalties to whichever side seems to be the most profitable/rewarding at the time!
Andy
MM0FMF
In reply to MM0FMF:
I remember years ago my mother coming home with a smile on her face because a foreign woman had asked her “where do you catch a train for “Higgy Wickomber””!
73
Brian G8ADD
PS “Mixed decent” - there’s a thought!
In reply to G8ADD:
My late father-in-law used to tell a story about how, when waiting on a station platform going on leave from the army, a couple of Australians asked him how to get to “Loogerburooger”.
But then, in a country where “Slaithwaite” is pronounced “Slou-it”, “Mousehole” is “Mouzle”, and “Woolfardisworthy” is “Woolsery”, not to mention the two towns called “Southwick” which are pronounced differently from one another, how can we expect foreigners to pronounce place-names correctly.
See also all the other places listed at List of irregularly spelt places in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia (which is a Wikipedia page to which I have made a few contributions).
In reply to G6ENU:
See also all the other places listed at List of irregularly spelt places in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
Indeed - I lived in Lancaster for 2 years before someone told me the nearby village of Quernmore wasn’t Quernmore after all!
The local one here is Cogenhoe.
73, Gerald G4OIG