Phonetic Alphabet, Sucks

Anyone who is cursed with an E in their callsign will know exactly what I mean. Echo is a nightmare to get across on the mic.

A few suggestions.

Replace Alpha with America…

Replace Mike with Mexico, unmistakeable.

Replace Golf with Germany…

Replace Hotel with Honolulu…

Replace Delta with Denmark…

Replace Oscar with Ontario…

Replace India with Italy…

Replace Sierra with Sugar…

Possibly replace Tango with Texas?

Any thoughts?

73 Mike
2E0YYY

In reply to KD9KC:

The have a drink down there called Ta Keell Ya. If you drink too much
of it, it will! Ask G3KFN!!!

About 40 years ago, one wild night during a holiday in Spain, I had a very similar experience with Tequila. Never took a drink for over a week afterwards, just couldn’t face one. Never ever drunk Tequila since. :frowning:

It’s okay for cleaning diesel engines though.

73 Mike
2E0YYY

In reply to 2E0YYY:
Hi Mike,

Ahh that would take us back. I remember several incarnations of the phonetic alphabet. Some were perhaps considered too country centric, or maybe politically incorrect. The current one is supposedly distinct and neutral and all words are of two syllables. Unfortunately most amateurs have not (I suspect) kept up to date with the phonetics. When working older ops a reversion may be needed.

You could maybe use “England” legitimately? Or maybe “Europe”?

I admit to abandoning the standard if the other op fails to read my call after two attempts and use something for his area if I can - Europe gets Amsterdam Florence (or France) Warsaw the US gets America Florida Washington.

An old copy of the RSGB handbook or the ARRL will give you an alternative and once sanctioned list.

73
Ron
VK3AFW/AX3AFW

In reply to 2E0YYY:

Any thoughts?

Yes. The alphabet was designed by people who knew what they were doing. You should research why the words were chosen and see why your suggestions are less than optimal!

Andy
MM0FMF

In reply to 2E0YYY:

Sorry Mike,

I have to disagree with you on the above!!

I cringe when anything other than the NATO alphabet is used. If a person was to call CQ using anything other than NATO I will go back to them but will make a concerted effort to use NATO calls when answering them!!

Why replace a word with one syllable like Golf with Germany which has three, the same can be said of Hotel with a 4 syllable word!!

I recognise that Sierra is 3 and Sugar is two (before anyone else points that out to me!) :slight_smile:

73

Matt Golf Ait Ecks-Ray Yang-Key Jew-Lee-Ett AKA G8XYJ

In reply to 2E0YYY:
The only one I’ve had trouble with is ‘Golf’…I sometimes have to use ‘Germany’ when conditions are poor (despite the three syllables).

Cheers

Keith GW4OKT

In reply to GW4OKT:
i agree sometimes when i use my call m0sgb, the other person come back with m0sdb, m0scb, until i say mexico zero sugar germany brazil, and before anyone else says mike zero sexy gay breaker i will say it, not been on for sometime but everyone in the uk on 145mhz always says mike zero scaffolding great britian,

In reply to M0SGB:

If people regularly hear “charlie” or “delta” when you say “golf” then that would suggest you’re not saying it properly.

but everyone in the uk on 145mhz always says mike zero scaffolding great britian

No, that’s most definitely not the alternative call you are known to many by!

Andy
MM0FMF

In reply to 2E0YYY:

< Replace Sierra with Sugar…

Santiago surely Mike. :slight_smile:

X is probably worse than E - not much you can do about that other than put some emphasis on the word X-ray. Xanadu is not an alternative. :wink:

73, Gerald G4OIG

In reply to M0SGB:

Being from Bristol - I always have issues saying ‘Alpha’. I don’t know why but no matter how hard I try it sounds like ‘ow-fer’ (like Gopher).

This has caused me all sorts of issues to the point where I’ve thought about changing the callsign (I don’t even know whether that’s possible btw). I swap it out and say ‘America’ mostly now.

All the other letters in the phonetic alphabet seem ok though.

In reply to G7LAS:

This isn’t my work, but I think we should all have a day using these gems:

A: aether
B: bee / bdellium
C: ctenophore
D: djembe
E: euthanize Mike
F:
G: gnat
H: honour
I:
J: jalapeño
K: knee
L: Llanelli
M: mnemonic
N: Nguyen
O: oestrogen
P: pneumatic
Q: qi
R: Rzeznik
S: sgraffitto
T: tsunami
U: Uighur
V:
W: write
X: xylophone
Y: Yreka
Z: Zaragoza

Imagine the chaos using that little lot will cause!

:slight_smile:

Rob G7LAS

In reply to G7LAS:

In reply to G7LAS:

This isn’t my work, but I think we should all have a day using these
gems:

E: eye

Nah, E should be Euphonium…

73 Mike
2E0YYY

In reply to 2E0YYY:

Changed ;))))

In reply to G4OIG:

In reply to 2E0YYY:

< Replace Sierra with Sugar…

Santiago surely Mike. :slight_smile:

Indeed Gerald and of course, in daily use.

However… Queen, Sugar Baker has a much more poetic sound than Queen, Santiago Baker :wink:

X is probably worse than E - not much you can do about that other than
put some emphasis on the word X-ray. Xanadu is not an alternative. :wink:

Maybe X-Factor, the kids would certainly have little trouble with this!

73 Mike
2E0YYY

In reply to 2E0YYY:

Being a self confessed CW addict I don’t use phone that much but when I do, or when just listening, the most common mistake I hear is that some operators blurt out a barrage of words instead of speaking slowly and in symbols.

Victor,

GI4ONL

In reply to G7LAS:

In reply to 2E0YYY:

Changed ;))))

Not laughed so much since the day you left G/SP-004 with 99 contacts ;-))))

73 Mike
2E0YYY

In reply to 2E0YYY:

It was much better when I started out …

Able, Baker, Charlie, Dog, Easy, Fox, George, How, Ida, Jig, King, Love, Mike, Nan, Oboe, Peter, Queen, Roger, Sugar, Tare, Uncle, Victor, Willie, X-Ray, Yoke, Zebra.

73,
Walt (Gallipoli 3 Nicaragua Yokohama Yokohama)

In reply to GW4OKT:

Dutchmen and Spaniards cannot say “Golf”.
:slight_smile:

73 de G3NYY

In reply to 2E0YYY:

“My name is Mike. I spell: Mike … etc.”

:slight_smile:

73,
Wlat

In reply to G3NYY:
Absolutely agree with most of the above posts.
The alternatives make me cringe.
Why pervert a well thought out standard alphabet, used throughout international professional communications?
I’ll leave the alternates to the 11m folk.

Not that I regularly use phonetics much and can’t recall the last time I used nadazero, unaone, bissotwo, terrathree, kartefour, pantafive, soxisix, setteseven, octoeight, novenine which is what I was taught.
I do still use zero, fiver and niner!
Pete