How do you stay comfortable during a long activation?

Hello,
Same as me too. Much more efficient…
73 from Gerald F6HBI

3 Likes

I have Raynaud’s Syndrome, so not only do I have cold feet most of the time, but also cold hands. Getting replumbed in 2018 unfortunately didn’t improve matters as the situation is exacerbated by taking a beta blocker.

As for operating for long periods, I quite often crouch, sometimes sit and sometimes lie. It depends on the situation at the summit. Getting up and moving around when making band or mode changes certainly helps avoid cramps. I’ve found that the worst case scenario is an open flat top summit with no natural shelter. A tarp comes in very handy and can be rigged in a multitude of ways using my walking poles. An inflatable seat pad helps insulate the backside from cold ground if I choose to sit and I prefer this to a foam mat, but often I forget to pack anything. :grinning:

Operating, I usually clip my key to the clipboard my log is on, sometimes keying while holding the pencil, hence some of the rubbish morse sent. Putting the pencil down sometimes results in a frantic search for it. Maybe it is time to come into the 21st century and log electrinically. :joy:

1 Like

This is something that I need to work on and there is definately room for improvement in my approach. Up to now ( …and I’ve just had the letter confirming my progression to retirement in September …) I have usually been in a hurry to get back down again to start on the list of tasks, so hopefully that will change…

I plan to be organised but it usually does not seem to work as well as that - possibly to to my canine companion who can sit for hours without any problems in the office / shack but on the summit he has the attention span of a small fly. … So I usually use a small sit mat and having set the antenna up, sat the dog down I usually find that whatever I need is just beyond reach, so I stand up to reach the phone, the sit mat blows away, I put the pencil down when retrieving the sit mat only to discover it is just beyond reach, however I’ve also discovered that the sandwiches are within reach of the dog and by the time I’ve retrieved the phone and pencil I’ve not only forgotten how to format the spot text message, I’ve also realised that the glasses I need to check that I have the right format of the text are also beyond reach and the whole process starts again… so I suppose to summarise I’ve never reached the giddy heights of making myself comfortable, but I suppose on the plus side I do somehow manage to make contacts and find both the log and a pencil and so far I’ve not lost anything on the summit (*) (*Other than part of a ham sandwich when I was not fast enough…)


(Woody is with me - the Photographer)


… sandwich hunting …

PS It isn’t always as disorganised as this … sometimes it is worse…

PPS I often take a 80/60/40 linked dipole and I find the short hike to the end of the antenna solves the problem of getting cramp.

73 Paul

6 Likes

Well that’s your SOTA career trashed! Everyone will want a piece of your time, so much so that you’ll wonder how you ever found time to go to work! :frowning:

3 Likes

Spot the common feature!

5 Likes

Michael, I’m envious of your fancy leg strap for your paddles. Looks nicer than my homemade one.

I’m left handed so I learnt to straight-key with my left but years later I taught myself to twin-paddle with my right hand, so like you I no longer need to drop the pencil or move it to other fingers.

3 Likes

Andy - here is the link to the supplier:

1 Like

When I remember some of the belays that I have sat on, teetered on or hung from, I wonder what this comfort is that you guys speak of! :wink:

3 Likes

Yes you can do that when you are activating a summit with a great activation zone. But when the summit is a piece of rock o when there are others visitors is practically impossible.
Or what about the guys who activated the Aconcagua (7000m asl) after walking kms and kms between 5000 and over 6000m I don’t think that they wanted to walk around the summit

4 Likes

In the Amateur homebrew tradition here is my solution. Some bubble wrap and a bit of tarp fixed together with duct tape. Weight 220g. It is mainly used for contests and wet summits.

73 de

Andrew G4VFL

7 Likes

Too true - I think it is mostly because I am slower doing things. Also Whoever’s Law - tasks expand to fit the time available.

However, on topic I find standing to use the HH, whether the dipole is connected or using just the stick aerial makes a change. For solid HF ssb operating I avoid the actual summit area - partly so others have easy access and partly so I have less difficulty with the long linked dipole. I head to the lee side and look for a suitably shaped bit of ground with a raised part with room for my air filled sit mat and a suitable drop for the lower legs - ie a natural seat. The radio either sits on the tump beside me or on the rucksack - preferably after removing ALL the activation kit. AND the waterproofs! A peat hag as mentioned above is often good - apart from the natural footbath so often provided :unamused: - a tiered one (drain, footrest, seat and windbreak) is worth looking out for in suitable terrain. The Brecon Beacons area and Southern Uplands are good for these. A locally assembled stone seat is comfortable when padded with the air mat and spare clothing (if any). Combine this with a big rock or mini cliff as a back rest and I am good for the long haul. I should add that I rarely linger for more than 45 minutes - the other-half and the next summit combine to keep things short.
73,
Rod

EDIT Looking for a comfortable spot does sometimes slow things down and M6BWA/P is already in QSO before I have sat down.

3 Likes

Yes, this is usually true but not always as my (incredibly heavy) 3 (cross) legged stool (with sitmats for padding) is sometimes very difficult to position. I have to carry it unless I know there will be a suitable cairn that I can perch on or a good slope with a terrace for the sitmat as my back will not let me sit unless I am almost in an ‘upright chair’ position. However this stool, which I’ve now used for a few years, has 3 legs/feet and also 3 corners of the seat and they are not in phase and I still seem to be unable to cope with this (doh!). Hence I position the seat on sloping ground so I can comfortably (?) sit on it but there is no foot underneath me so I start to make an unscheduled descent! When the foot is in the right position then I can’t sit in a comfortable position, etc, etc, usw, usw! then I hear ‘CQ SOTA, CQ SOTA’ and know he has triumphed again! This is always assuming that I have persuaded the dipole to go up vaguely in a vertical direction and am not still untangling the guys or moving the pegs yet again.

The real snag with the seat is that it won’t fit under a low tarp or shelter or boulder so my top half is still exposed to whatever the weather brings while my feet and legs can be slightly sheltered. Of course HE is usually in the lee in some cosy sheltered spot but with 2m fm I have to use whatever height is available and be near the top of the ridge.

Anyone any ideas for a lighter stool to carry? - I’ve tried the odd fishing stool but they are usually too low for my back or they collapsed!! :cry:
Viki M6BWA

1 Like

Hi Viki, I also have a 3-legged stool. I don’t use it much now as:

  1. the legs sink into soft ground
  2. the helicon i mentioned above is about the same size/weight packed, but adds a back. It’s also lower; which can be both an advantage (fitting under tarps) and a disadvantage (harder to get out of!).
1 Like

I don’t get this! Why would you key and write in your logbook at the same time? I do one or the other. It is transmit (keying) or receive (writing). This I can do with one hand, holding the pencil while I key the paddle. With the other hand I hold the paddle and notebook together.

73 Heinz

3 Likes

I’m not sending and writing at the same time. I’m either A) writing, B) sending and holding my notebook down from being blown away :slight_smile:

1 Like

For warm hands if they do get cold:-

Another thing I carry and use are those small gel pads that you boil in their bag. I then ‘activate’, them if I need to. They are quite handy and do warm your hand/fingers up. They can of course be used over and over again once you boil them up again.

Update on the telescopic stool.
It arrived today - very professionally packed (no joke) which surprised me for the price.
It is solid and comfortable from my first tests.
Unfortunately, it is relatively heavy and large when collapsed, so not really useful for SOTA summits with any length of walk-in. It’d be fine on a drive-on summit with a short walk but apart from that, IMHO this is not a good option for SOTA.

73 Ed.

3 Likes

9.26 into this video is how I keep warm. It was below zero with -10°C windchill. I was on the summit for an hour.

The YouTubers SOTA Summit to Summit Party - YouTube

Bear Grylls taught me.

2 Likes

pics of my backrest. Up high when used with a tarp, but a bit wobbly. Down low when used without a tarp. Much sturdier and the ropes act as arm rests. Just a string with 4 loops and 2 pegs. Use the straps on the sticks to keep the string loops from slipping down. As light as you can get. Along with my padded laptop sleeve as a seat.



11 Likes

perfect low budget solution

73 Armin

3 Likes