At risk of showing myself up due to general ignorance of I.T. matters, I have received a message from Yahoo in reference to the original SOTA reflector which they provided from 2001. It’s one thing to stop new posts but quite another not to allow the reading of those already in existence which is how I am interpreting it. See link below:
These reflector postings, which date back to 7th August 2001, trace the history of SOTA right from its conception by John, Richard and others. I am very concerned that we may loose this important history and that of all the members from that time. Unthinkable in my opinion! Devising SOTA was a tremendous achievement which I for one will be ever grateful for and we don’t want to loose access to how it was done especially the effort involved. Also there are messages on there from the likes of Shirley, now SK.
The email received 29-October 2019.
Dear Group Moderators and Members,
*Thank you for your commitment to Yahoo and for helping us define the power of digital communities. Eighteen years ago, we combined the functionality of a site called eGroups.com with a precursor community platform called Yahoo Clubs to launch Yahoo Groups. Since then, you and millions of others have helped prove our hypothesis, by creating and joining more than 10 Million groups. *
A lot has changed about the Internet since 2001, including the ways most people now use Yahoo Groups. Today, most Yahoo Groups activity happens in your email inbox, not on the bulletin boards where Yahoo Groups started in the pre-smartphone age. Increasingly, people want content and connections coming directly to them, and this is why we continue to invest in Yahoo Mail – including the recent launch of a new Yahoo Mail app that is currently the highest-rated email app in the App Store and Google Play.*
So, as our users’ habits have evolved, we have begun the process of evolving our approach to help active Yahoo Groups thrive and migrate to our email platform. To help you plan for these changes, below is the schedule of how this transition will happen. *
Beginning October 28, 2019: *
•Users will be able to join a Yahoo Group only through an invite from the Group Moderator or by submitting a request to join a Group, which requires approval by the Group Moderator.
*•Since we are moving Group communication from posting on message boards to email distribution, uploading and hosting of new content will also be disabled on the Yahoo Groups website. *
Beginning December 14, 2019:*
•All Groups will be made private and any content that was previously uploaded via the website will be removed. We believe privacy is critical and made this decision to better align with our overall principles.
•If you would like to keep any of the content you’ve posted or stored in the past within your Yahoo Group, please download it by December 14 by accessing this link.
As these dates get closer, we will send follow-up reminders. More information about the upcoming changes can be found here.*
While this evolution of Yahoo Groups is inspired by how we see the platform being used today, we know change can be difficult. Here are a few important facts as we make this transition:*
- Yahoo Groups is not going away - We know that our users are deeply passionate about connecting around shared interests, and we are evolving Groups to better align with how you use it today.*
- New groups can still be formed - Users can continue to connect with others around their common bonds and interests. From animal rescues to sporting and activity groups, civic organizations to local PTAs, members of our Yahoo Groups will remain connected and able to share their activities and interests. All of the content that you have shared previously on the website, can continue to be shared via email. *
We know that Yahoo Groups is an important online extension of your real-life group of friends, interests and communities, and we are committed to supporting communities that rely on Yahoo Groups. Thanks for coming along with us this far. We look forward to seeing where the technology – and you – take us in the decades to come.*
The Groups Team*
As a contingency I have cut and pasted the first 100 posts into a word document but it’s a slow process - ongoing.
The email above apparently provides an option to download all my own G4YSS messages but presumably not the whole content. I requested this because scores of my old activation reports and many others of interest are (it seems exclusively) on this platform. Yahoo replied on 31st October as follows:
You requested a download of your Yahoo Groups data for g4yss. We will notify you at firstname.lastname@example.org when your download is ready. *
If this wasn’t you, go to https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/getmydata immediately to cancel the download. *
For security, we also recommend that you go to account settings to change your password, and review your recovery phone number(s) and/or email address(es) to remove the ones that don’t belong to you. *
…As of today - nothing heard.
I hope somebody comes back saying I’m a buffoon and it’s already been sorted, its on a previous thread or you just do this, this and this etc. That would be good.
So in summary:
Will it be possible to get all this history transferred across to the current SOTA reflector so that we have both an ‘Old, Old Reflector’ as well as the current ‘Old Reflector?’ As well as ‘Conversations’ there are ‘Files’ also and I think photos too.
OR failing that I would urge individual members to pull down their own posts if they want to keep them. It seems we only have until mid December.
As stated above I am awaiting a reply from Yahoo about downloading G4YSS content and will add further information on that subject as and when.