G/LD & G/NP Region Managers

I would like to announce that the SOTA President John @G3WGV has decided to step down as region manager for the G/LD and G/NP Regions. I would like to thank John G3WGV for his great work being the region manager for G/LD and G/NP for last 22 years.

Me, John G3WGV and the SOTA Management Team have all discussed who would be the best candidates to take on the role of G/LD and G/NP region manager. We all agreed that Mark @M0NOM and Paul @G4IPB would be the best candidates to be the region manager for G/LD and G/NP respectively. I have now been in contact with both Mark M0NOM and Paul G4IPB and they have agreed to become the region manager for the mentioned regions so please join me in welcoming Mark M0NOM as the new G/LD region manager and Paul G4IPB as the new G/NP region manager. Both Mark M0NOM and Paul G4IPB will be checking the regional notes for the regions which they are now the region manager for and they will advise me of any amendments that need to be made.

The above region manager updates will go live in March 2025 and I have dated the update to be 2nd March 2025 to coincide with SOTA’s 23rd Anniversary.

I have also contacted the other regions managers who are Richard @G4ERP (G/CE and G/WB), Peter @G3TJE (G/DC and G/SC), Jim @G0CQK (G/SB), David @G3RDQ (G/SE), Richard @G3CWI and Phil @G4OBK (G/TW) to ask them if they wish they wish to carry on as region manager for the region(s) that they are region manager for and if so, if the email address we have for them is still correct and to advise me of any regional note amendments. I am still awaiting the responses.

When the update does go live in March 2025, this will include a number number of summit height and prominence changes, also a few grid reference changes and a slight spelling correction for one G SOTA summit also.

I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the region managers are the first point of contact for any advice or queries for SOTA summits in the region that the region manager manages.

Jimmy M0HGY
G - Association Manager

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I’m intrigued about the spelling correction Jimmy - which summit?

Am I going to have to start calling it “The Clod”?

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It’s only a slight spelling correction dad and this relates to G/LD-048.

Jimmy M0HGY
G - Association Manager

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Hard to imagine what could be amended there other than inserting a space between the apostrophe and the capital S! Even so, the interweb is not unanimous on whether or not there should be a space there.

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Capital O in the heading?
Rod

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Thanks to Mark and Paul for taking this on! :clap::clap::clap:

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Spelling for G/LD-048 will be corrected from Top o’Selside to Top o’ Selside.

Jimmy M0HGY
G - Association Manager

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Don’t forget it will be spelt “Top o’ Selside” but pronounced “Throat Warbler Mangrove”.

I must say Top o’ Selside looks to me like someone has typed it in wrong.

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Where do we find a list of regional managers?

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Hi Fraser,

The region managers are listed on the ARMs and also on each region on the SOTA Database before you click on the summit pages for that region. The region manager list for the G (England) will all be correct in March 2025 when the update goes live.

Jimmy M0HGY
G - Association Manager

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Is this really a correction? It hardly seems worth bothering, especially since no-one seems to agree on which is “correct”.

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There’s the argument that our data (name, position, height) for the UK should be the same as the RHB list for the UK. So whilst the changes are not critical, we should update our data. There’s no rush for the UK however.

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Well… the use of an apostrophe to signify missing letters/words is known as a contraction.

Do not == Don’t
Cannot == Can’t
Does not == Doesn’t

You squash all the letters together and show there is something missing with a ’

12 o’clock == 12 of the clock

Again the single ’ shows where there is something missing and you squish it all together.

There is a Selside so the summit name Top Of Selside makes sense. Where it is located in the UK and the dialect in that part of the country makes a contraction obvious.

Top Of Selside == Top o’Selside (follows the rules)

So Top o’ Selside with a space after the apostrophe just has to be wrong. :wink:

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Thanks for the info Jimmy. I don’t know where the SOTA organisation get the official names from for the summits. I think you do right right to update the naming of Top o’Selside. It’s a shame that Pike of Blisco G/LD-024 is written as it is. I think it would be better spelt as Pike o’Blisco which is what Lakeland people call it, albeit on Ordnance Survey maps it is written as Pike of Blisco.

I will be updating the regional notes for the G/TW region before the deadline, but there is little that needs changing.

73 de Phil G4OBK
G/TW Region Manager

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Thanks in advance to both Mark and Paul, both are fine people and I’m sure they’ll do well in their new roles.

73, Colin

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I’m confused. Which should it be, space or no space?

I agree. So does my copy of Fell and Rock Climbing Club’s The Lakeland Fells.

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I wonder has someone read this on the map and transcribed it wrong?

tos
(c) Ordnance Survey 2024

A bit like the apocryphal way the “Name?” on a map of Alaska was transcribed as “Nome”.

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The “o’clock” example does not appear to be a reliable indicator of a consistent rule here. The rule inferred by some on here is certainly not observed by this famous old brass band:

https://besses.co.uk/

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Whenever I do summit updates to the England (G) Association, I always refer to the English Marilyn’s that are listed on the Hills Database which is regularly maintained by the Relative Hills of Britain (RHB). Previously on the Hills Database for G/LD-048, there was no space between o’ and Selside, but on the latest Hills Database update shows that there is a space between o’ and Selside and thefore hence why I have now added the space. The England (G) Association along with all the other UK SOTA Associations have always used the data from the RHB’s Marilyn’s list and have always referred to the Hills database when doing update. Me along with all other UK Association Managers have been referring to the Hills Database when doing updates for the past 22 years now and this is not going to change.

Jimmy M0HGY
G - Association Manager

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@MM0FMF is doing some heavy lifting looking after 1,219 summits. Although probably @KL3JI “wins” on this front.

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