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I know I’m fit if the ascent and descent take the same time. How about you?


G3CWI (currently unfit…)

In reply to G3CWI:
With that criteria I’ll never be fit :frowning:

Roger G4OWG

In reply to G3CWI:

Interesting… but there has to be some limits to how long it takes to get up. Otherwise just going very slow up and down will give the same times and that may give misleading measurements of fitness!

I’m not fit as I can get down quicker than I get up but the difference is often not very much. Though I sometimes think I dawdle and simply bimble along on the way down because I can. And sometimes my nearly-50 knees suggest slower is better.


In reply to G3CWI:

Personally I can’t agree with that Richard. I say to anyone going along with me, “I’ll see plenty of your back on the way up, you’ll see plenty of mine on the way down”. It doesn’t mean that I’m not fit, just that my style of ascending and descending are wildly different. I also have preferences on the type of ascent, being much happier on the long even gradients such as Carnedd Wen GW/MW-012 and the sharp steep ascents such as Tryfan GW/NW-006. The problem is that most gradients are somewhere in between!

The only summits I’ve ever managed what you suggest are ones like Ruardean G/WB-021, Crowborough G/SE-007 and Great Orme GW/NW-070. Hmmm, I wonder why…

73, Gerald

In reply to G3CWI:

Well, being a whippersnapper of 15 years, I find that going uphill incredibly quickly can be fun, with a slow, teenage mope-style descent. If the hill is only small (1 or 2 points) I sometimes enjoy running down at full pelt, whatever the terrain may be! Although I do ache a bit afterwards…


M6AIM - by this time tomorrow I shall known as MM6AIM! (I hope)

In reply to G3CWI:

Hi Richard

As I have increased in fitness over the last 18 months (or rather decreased in weight - by about 5 stones) although my ascents have speeded up, my descents have increased in speed much more, so I’m not convinced of the universality of your assertion!

The one certain thing is the enormous benefit I have realised from my participation in SOTA. When I first started, Walton Hill was a major challenge. Now I can look forward with eager anticipation to a day out taking in a couple of major summits. They should supply it on the National Health :wink:

73 de Paul G4MD

In reply to G4MD:

5 stones??? I am very impressed Paul. I’d like to lose at least that much myself, what would you recommend? How did you do it?

I too can feel the health benefits that participation in SOTA brings, but so far all it seems to have done for me is make my legs a bit firmer. HI!

Maybe I don’t do it often enough?


Mark G0VOF (Definitely unfit)

In reply to G0VOF:

5 stones??? How did you do it?

Hi Mark

Quite simple really, but not easy :wink: Basically down to obsessive counting of calories. Losing weight is much like “miracle” antennas - hype, misinformation and misunderstanding abound but as with RF currents, and quoting perhaps the most famous engineer of all time, “ye cannae change the laws of physics” - it’s all to do with balancing energy in and energy out. Add to that a big dose of motivation (that’s where SOTA came in for me!) and you’ve got it cracked.

If you’re seriously interested in losing weight, drop me a PM and I can give you a lot more detail of how I went about it - it’s probably a bit OT for the reflector!

73 de Paul G4MD

My descents are slower on bigger hills. That’s because I am tired later in the day, plus my 18 stones combined with an uneasiness with heights means that any steeper sections in the descent tend to be taken very over-cautiously.

My descents of SP-015 are very fast. That’s because I know every step off by heart, but moreover because I am chasing a very tight deadline to get to work on time!


In reply to M1EYP:

my 18 stones …

My descents of SP-015 are very fast. That’s because I know every step
off by heart …

Ah … so I suspect, then, that I am not the only person who can’t walk through the “stile” on the path up to SP-015 and has to resort to crawling underneath it!

LOL! :slight_smile:

Walt (G3NYY)

It is tight, but I can do it Walt. Fortunately, despite the 18 stone payload, I am also 6 ft 3 in tall, and so simply by standing up straight, I can get most of the “bulk” above that squeeze stile, and only my legs need to get through it!

In reply to M1EYP:

Ah, you have the height advantage. I’m only 5ft 9in, but just a stone lighter than you!

I need to take slimming lessons from Paul!


Walt (G3NYY)

In reply to G3NYY:
I lost 2 stone and my XYL lost 5 stone, I was always the big eater but now my XYL eats more than me and continues to loose weight. Its not how much you eat its what you eat that matters. Sean M0GIA

In reply to M0GIA:

Its not how much you eat its what you eat that matters.

So a flask of Broccoli, Stilton and Bacon soup, followed by an Indian curry on the way home is perhaps not the recipe for success?


Walt (G3NYY)

In reply to thread:

When I was a little younger my decents were very much faster than the ascents because like many other climbers I adopted a sort of crab-wise galumphing action, bouncing down very rapidly. I wouldn’t do it now, I don’t trust my ankles the way I did!


Brian G8ADD

In reply to G8ADD:
I walked up Hadley Mountain (W2/GA-175) yesterday in an hour and came back down in a 1/2 hour.
I am paying for it today… my legs are sore, but I did not want to let the younger couple with their 2 children beat me up ! lol
Maybe, I should have listened to my rubber legs. It did not help that the pine pollen was blowing off the trees looking like yellow smoke and the humidity was reasonably high … my excuse and I’m sticking to it :slight_smile:

Andrew K1YMI