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Ben More (GM/SS-001) & Stob Binnein (GM/SS-002)

After the previous outing on the Ben Lawers range these two seemed like they were going to be a sort of, ‘rest day’, or least not too taxing. A previous report I’d read mentioned parking up at the forestry Ben More entrance a OS 51 NN455275 and aproaching Ben More through the forestry along Allt Coire Chaorach then heading SE to up to the hills on that side, which include Stob Creagach - basically turning the whole thing into a horse shoe. I thought I’d forget the horse shoe and simply head up to the Bealach between my two appointed summits. Simples!!

The first thing that didn’t go down to well was that there was no anticipated forestry road going my way along the burn. Just a trace of a long since disused overgrown gap along the side of the burn. That would have to do. It got worse before it got better but eventually I made the open hillside which were quite wet and boggy in places. There, any remains of a path or track vanished as did the tops in swirling mists.

Around 700m I saw, much to my surprise a Dipper fly out of a small burn and out of sight. These birds of stream and river are rarely encountered at such hight. There were no sheep on the hill and I saw nothing else of note.

I took a a compass bearing got me to the Bealach where now the winds had increased to less than tolerable speeds for doing an activation. On I pressed and arrived at the top of Stob Binnein some three hours after leaving my van. The summit was bleak. I wasn’t exactly enjoying myself at this stage but eventually found somewhere which gave me a little shelter from the wind.

I was blessed by a good enough BT signal and self spotted. Much to my relief I logged my first four CW contacts on 14mhz -, SA4BLM, F4WBN, SM5LNE, DL6WT within minutes. I suddenly felt much better! These were quickly followed by Andy/G4AFI and another 9 chasers before I went to 10mhz and got another 8 contacts. It was time to head to Ben More, still in the swirling mists and strong gusting winds.

Here to I managed to find a little shelter in the lee of the hill. Self spotting again I was soon answered by Chris/F4WBN on 14mhz and another 23 contacts,including an S2S with MQ1EYP/P on GM/SS182. The signal was pretty weak but I was stumped by the Q in the call and asked for a repear. It took some time before it dawned on me this was Tom and he was including the ‘Q’ as part of the Queen’s Jubilee.

It was now 4pm, I was rather damp and getting cold, despite having all my spare clothing on, and, I also faced the issue of deciding the best way to return to the vehicle… I could return the way I came, but didn’t relish the idea of floundering around trying to find the way back through the forestry. It seemed much simpler to follow the well worn path leading off the summit to the NW which I knew would likely come out at Benmore Fm on the A85 road. But I didn’t anticipate how steep and eroded the path would be. The going down was harder than going up and seemed to go on forever. Eventually the mist cleared I could see that I had an awlful lot of steep descent ahead before reaching the luxury of the road.

Now, I don’t like walking on busy roads - who does? But I had little choice. Yes it was noisy - I expected that, but what I hand’t anticipated was that I couldn’t walk behind the crash barriers as sometimes there simply wasn’t the room, and walking in front of them seemed both stupid and potentially dangerous around bends and so on, so I spent a fair bit of time crossing and recrossing the road and jumping over the barrier when cars & lorries approached.

At 6:30pm, some 9 hours after leaving the van I got back in and had my dinner. I’d left the side door open and noticed I had a guest outside.

Here my guest is eating a bit of ham. Its a good protein boost for him

He didn’t seem too fussed by my presence and he ate some of my ham & muesli I’d scattered for him. The last time I saw him he trotted of with an oat flake to eat in peace. I think he was camera shy.

I drove of, to my next day’s target at Tyndrum, Ben Ohdar (GM/CS-050)


The presence of the average speed cameras now has massively tamed the speeds on that road. The section from Crianlarich to Lix Toll has some impressive bends and straights and so was normally filled with a mix of sports bikes doing a local impression of the IOM TT and plenty of performance cars giving it some. Now it’s a procession of vehicles doing just 60mph.

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40mph at weekends!

Well done David! From a fellow masochist. I’ve been putting Ben More to the bottom of my list on an annual basis since getting blown over near the summit 25 years ago. 2022 may be the year to put it to bed!

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Parked up at Loch Earn and elsewhere, I head numerous bikers roaring along the loch side roads on a few evenings. The locals were obviously sick of it as I saw a few ‘scarecrows’ dressed up as policemen and holding imitation speed guns, their day glow uniforms no longer bright, but now faded to an insipid pale yellow…


It’s the road from Lix Toll out to Tyndrum that has average speed cameras as opposed to speed traps. I don’t know how far the average speed cameras run for after Tyndrum. The good thing about them is I reset the trip computer at the 1st average speed camera and then can see my average speed. This means you can still overtake slower vehicles with a quick squirt past them. Though it’s not hard to know that if you have been behind a slower vehicle for a minute, a quick blast past and back to 60 is not going to put you over.

Ben More from the tourist path is effectively 1km height gain in 3km walking or a constant 1 in 3 hill. Yes, Fraser I still have to do it.


Joint trip? I’ll carry the tea and scones.


Can I come too?


Sure. Let’s have a summit party on the steepest and badest Munro in central Scotland!

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My Scottish geography isn’t exactly non existent but I like using Google maps to understand distance from my UK home.

In this case about 2 1/2 hours, very manageable!!

However what leap off Google maps, if correct was the bias of speeding cameras for people heading to/from Edinburgh (either Scots or english) from England versus heading north west and out of Edinburgh to recreational areas.

Just saying, there’s a few interpretations of this…….

Aha! The route from Lix Toll to Crianlarich. Looks like it was done at the 60mph limit. You can see what a splendid road it is and far be it from me to suggest you view the video at x2 speed to get an idea of how it used to look before the cameras.

At 9.00mins in, the cars parked on the left are parked in the normal area for people doing Ben More via the Benmore Farm path.

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Can’t be that steep or bad if an oldie like me can manage it. At least there is no festering bog on the way up. :joy:



Looking south from the summit of Ben More, there is not a higher point than where you stand in the rest of the The British Isles.


Interesting thought!