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Statistics


#1

The SOTA database has a number of interesting statistics, including a breakdown of activations by band and the fifty most-popular summits for activations.

I was wondering it it would be possible to add another couple of summaries, maybe in the form of a “top ten” listing.

I’d like to see a listing of the summits with the greatest number of unique chasers, and of the activators who have the greatest number of QSOs in the database. The first would assist potential activators to target the summits in greatest demand, whilst the second would give some recognition to those activators who take time with their efforts, not departing after the minimum four QSOs.

Does anybody else have any suggestions for further useful statistics?

73 de Les, G3VQO


#2

Would the summits in greatest demand be those at the top or the bottom of the first table you suggest? This could be an interesting additional bit of data though, if/when Gary and/or Jon have the inclination to do it.

I would have to disagree with your second suggestion though. I understand that John and Richard deliberately kept the number of QSOs required relatively low, with a view on safety when they formulated the Programme. I don’t think that introducing a table which ranked according to QSO counts would send out the right message, or be consistent with our guidelines/rules on safety and the environment.

That’s not to say there is anything wrong with activators making lots of contacts in appropriate circumstances; but it isn’t a core aim of the programme. From personal experience, having done several “many contact” activations recently, I would say that the rewards forthcoming from the appreciation of chasers and one’s own opportunity to ‘play radio’ are more than enough. The database does indicate on each individual’s activation record how many QSOs were made in each activation, so there is some recognition from the database.


#3

In reply to M1EYP:

Fair point on my second suggestion!!

As regards the first, ideally we would have a “most wanted” top ten, similar to DXCC or IOTA. However, with so many summits, even within the British Isles, not yet activated, such a list would be enormous. Perhaps we could have the most-wanted summit in each Region. That would certainly assist activators in, or visitors to, some of the smaller English regions (such as SC and SE). For example, the number of activations and the geographical remoteness of SE-015 would suggest it is the most-wanted within SE, but maybe the difficulty of SE-007, or the non-mainland location of SE-008/012 would place them higher. Maybe it’s actually non of the above!! It would be fun to find out.

73 de Les, G3VQO


#4

In reply to G3VQO:

Does anybody else have any suggestions for further useful statistics?

Like in any sport you need to choose the right category to be good in it ;-). I have no objections for counting the QSOs, but I agree with M1EYP about the safety, environment and the fact that the non-hams may not appreciate our activity too much.

73, Jaakko OH7BF/F5VGL


#5

In reply to G3VQO:

Does anybody else have any suggestions for further useful statistics?

The current list of most frequently activated summits is useful but possibly a most frequently activated list on a per region/per association basis may be more useful. That way activators can see more clearly what has been done many times in their area and pick out something less common.

The other is not really a statistic but a facility to allow the chasers to vote on up and coming activations. This would work by the activator entering a list of possible summits to activate on given date and allowing the chasers to vote for the summits they would most like to work.

Andy
MM0FMF


#6

In reply to G3VQO:

Does anybody else have any suggestions for further useful statistics?

I would be interested to see some overall trends like

  • number of activations/activators/chases/chasers/QSOs
  • HF vs. VHF/UHF activity
  • within HF: CW vs. SSB, 7megs vs. other bands
    displayed over time.

This could give a feeling about SOTA to non-SOTA visitors also.

73,
Zoli


#7

In reply to MM0FMF:

but
possibly a most frequently activated list on a per region/per
association basis may be more useful. That way activators can see more
clearly what has been done many times in their area and pick out
something less common.

…a bit like this?

http://www.sotawatch.org/beta/summits.php?region=4

73

Richard


#8

In reply to G3CWI:

But sorted into either ascending or descending order.

Andy
MM0FMF


#9

In reply to MM0FMF:

An easy(ish) way to sort the list is to select the table (holding left mouse button down and scrolling over the list). The right mouse click on the selected area and select copy from the drop down menu. Open up a spreadsheet program ( I use Excel, but I presume it works just as well in Works or others) and paste into a new sheet. Using Paste Special as HTML gives you the corect formatting. Its just a case of sorting it into whatever direction you like.

Sorry if this is teaching people to suck eggs.

Ian
G7ADF


#10

In reply to M1EYP:

I calculated the average QSO rate for my 14 activations. It is 10.14 QSOs/activation with 7.14 points/activation. I do not see a problem to publish the QSO rate in the Activator Results table. It does not imply any change to the SOTA rules.

73, Jaakko OH7BF/F5VGL


#11

Dear All

Thanks for the suggestions. What gets done depends on the goodwill and free time of the individuals concerned. Both of these commodities have limits and thus inevitably some prioritisation has to occur. Tasks such as integrating new Associations and keeping the databases current inevitably take a high priority as do tasks relating to the resilience and core functionality of the SOTA programme. Many of these tasks are not immediately obvious to end-users - you log in and it just works - but they do take up a good proportion of our limited time.

Suggestions are always welcome and good ideas that enhance SOTA will certainly catch the attention of the MT!

73

Richard
G3CWI


#12

In reply to G3VQO:

On a similar subject, one thing I would like to see re-instated if possible(I’m fairly sure it used to be there) is a complete list of activators for a summit - not just the first and the last few. It’s sometimes useful to be able to contact a particular activator to gain his opinion on - say - a proposed route.

73, Richard G4ERP


#13

In reply to G4ERP:

Richard - access the database, click on “list of all summits” - select your summit, then click on “history” eg this is SP-004.

http://database.sota.org.uk/(S(kexitc55vxwpdcqkzjro3l45))/summitReport2.aspx?returnUrl=summits.aspx&summitid=1397


#14

Never taken away!

http://database.sota.org.uk/(S(kexitc55vxwpdcqkzjro3l45))/summitReport2.aspx?returnUrl=summits.aspx&summitid=1411


#15

In reply to M1EYP:

Thanks, both. I confess I haven’t used this route into the database before (as you can probably tell) having been using James’ Excel spreadsheet extensively since I started. Funny how you keep on doing the same thing - ‘cos it’s second nature (and being offline, James’ Spreadsheet is very handy).

73, Richard