Ssb telephony on 60m - which frequency to use?

(Apologies to non-UK amateurs who cannot use 60m)
Is there a protocol / accepted practice on which frequency one should centre a 3kHz wide upper sideband transmission on the various, UK, 60m allocations.
Before using this band, I consulted the band plan and note that 5.298-5.307; 5.333-5.338; 5.354-5.358; 5.378-5.382; and 5.395-5.4015 are not allocated for any particular purpose/mode and therefore all would be suitable for SOTA, telephony QSOs. All of these are wider than 3kHz so I was wondering where one should centre an ssb transmission (ie, what should I tune the radio to?).
I looked through SOTA alerts and noted that there were several alerts on 5.3985 and so I used this frequency on upper sideband. I note that 5.3985 is 3kHz lower than the edge of the band so is it normal practice to tune one’s radio to 3kHz below the edge of the band - all advice appreciated?
If you are an avid activator with only a Foundation or Intermediate licence then it is well worth the extra study to gain a Full licence and the privilege of being able to apply for a NoV to use 60m. As there are effectively just 5 channels then it is much easier for chasers to find you and so it is much easier to qualify those lower summits where neighbouring, taller hills block out VHF and above.
This assumes the sun “does its bit” and last week I had 0 contacts from 2 Cornish summits (G/DC-007, G/DC-004) despite posting spots and calling CQ for over 1/2 hour on each occasion. However, the latter did yield a S2S in central Spain on 20m. Last Saturday, I called CQ on 5.3985 from G/WB-009 and got 6 contacts straight away plus a summit-to-summit later on.

Best 73s
Alastair Hopkins
M0TYM

In reply to M6ALR:

Alistair,
This might help you “picture” the 60M allocations.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/140218_UK_60m_Band_Utilization.pdf

72
Pete

In reply to M6ALR:

Hi Alastair, you are correct in thinking that for a usb signal, you should tune your radio to 3KHz below the upper band edge. The frequency displayed on the radio is normally where the carrier would be, if there was one.
Within the wider channels, you could of course tune down until the displayed frequency is getting close to the lower band edge…

More details here: 5MHz - Radio Society of Great Britain - Main Site : Radio Society of Great Britain – Main Site

But it does just say more or less what you had worked out!

Best 73
Adrian
G4AZS

In reply to M6ALR:

(Apologies to non-UK amateurs who cannot use 60m)

Many of them can, I had a 60m QSO with Denmark yesterday.

Before using this band, I consulted the band plan

The RSGB band plan for 60m is rather terse.

As Pete said - the accepted place to see what is actually happening on 60m is the band utilisation chart that Ian Wade produces and which Pete linked to.

However note that Ian requests that people should publish the following link which will always point to the latest version:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/UK_60m_band_utilization.htm

I looked through SOTA alerts and noted that there were several alerts
on 5.3985 and so I used this frequency on upper sideband.

That freq goes back to the old NoV system when we were restricted to a few channels, it was chan ‘FE’ and was used by a lot of SOTA activators.

73

Colin G8TMV

In reply to G8TMV:

There was a really useful printout doing the rounds at the Blackpool Rally. I downloaded the pdf and printed and laminated it. It’s in the SOTA bag should I need it. It used to be easy with a few fixed channels but it is a little harder to navigate around now. Ian’s pages don’t look like it and I’ve been searching for the link or the file I downloaded. I can’t put my finger on it which is most annoying. Too many TBs of disk space and not enough proper filing :frowning:

It was title something like 60m Bandplanlet if anyone knows the doc I’m refering to.

Andy
MM0FMF

In reply to MM0FMF:

Ha, takes a while to search 24TB of disk…

This is a nice image which is readable on A4. As I said I laminated a copy and keep in the SOTA bag.

http://www.g4aax.org.uk/?page_id=941

Andy
MM0FMF

However note that Ian requests that people should publish the
following link which will always point to the latest version:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/UK_60m_band_utilization.htm

This is a pretty document crammed with information. I dutifully arranged to reduce the page size to A6 and laminated it to take with me on activations.

I have, however, never used it. I have never found it necessary to stray outside the old NoV channels. I have them in memory channnels and as autocompletes on my phone for spotting. My first choice is FE (5.3985) but increasingly find it occupied by chatter and/or primary user data traffic. (Shouldn’t really be “and”, but there you go). Next choice is either up to FM (5.4035) or down to FL (5.3715), one of which is usually free and very occasionally even has somebody listening.

The main thing to avoid is straddling two of the old channels. I did once find myself on something like 5.397 by answering a CQ there, but it’s not a good place to be.


Martyn M1MAJ

In reply to M1MAJ:

On Saturday I found FE (5.3985) unusable due to what I assume was fishfone chatting just off frequency, so I called on 5.4035 and after several minutes of calling the contacts started to arrive. Assuming clear frequencies virtually all SOTA traffic on 60 metres is on (a)5.3985, (b)5.4035 or ©5.3715 (carrier frequency) in that order of preference. CW is usually further down the band, perhaps a key-basher can comment? Note that the second and third choice frequencies provide transatlantic DX in the small hours of the morning, in good conditions and with a bit of perserverence you can get across even with five watts.

There is a small but enthusiastic band of activators on 60 metres, so far this year I have logged 126 chases on that band, and I don`t get them all.

73

Brian G8ADD

In reply to G8ADD:

CW is usually further down the band, perhaps a key-basher
can comment?

I’ve used 5.261 for CW - that is midway between the CoA and QRP frequencies so more likely to be heard by both sets of users.

Colin G8TMV

In reply to G8ADD:

CW is usually further down the band, perhaps a key-basher
can comment?

I’m a key-caresser - 5.260 is my prime hangout.

in good conditions
and with a bit of perserverence you can get across even with five
watts.

Wrong thread Brian. You’ll upset the kilowatt boys again…

72
Pete