SOTA activation from foreign countries?

Question is about the use of correct CEPT-callsigns for SOTA activations abroad from home country in other associations.

So often heard
IK/… but ARM says should be I/…
CT/… but ARM says should be CT7/…
HB/… in ARM not mentioned, but HB9/… is correct ?

Anyway, the Associations Reference Manual ARM of the refered country is
sometimes helpful and should be well considered.

Best 73
John OE7PHI
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In reply to OE7PHI:

i recently found this (in german language):

http://www.oevsv.at/export/oevsv/download/DiverseFiles/Laender_mit_CEPT-Lizenz.pdf

73 de martin
www.oe5reo.at

In reply to OE5REO:

List concerning Italy is an old one.
Unfortunately they did not correct yet.
I try to use ARM instead,

73
John

In reply to OE7PHI:

Hi John, try this:

http://www.erodocdb.dk/docs/doc98/official/pdf/TR6101.pdf

“Recommendation T/R 61-01” issued by the CEPT ECC (Electronic Communications Committee) , Section 2 “Conditions of Utilisation”, Subsection 2.3:

"When transmitting in the visited country the licence holder must use his national call sign preceded by the call sign prefix of the visited country as indicated in ANNEX 2: and ANNEX 4:. The call sign prefix and the national call sign must be separated by the character “/” (telegraphy) or the word “stroke” (telephony)."

73, Rob
DM1CM

In reply to OE7PHI:

In a related thought… why do stations sign /p when they are portable in a different country. For example… SM/K9EZ/p? Is that required in some countries? All countries I have operated from I just used the portable country prefix, unless of course I had an assigned call.

Kent
SM/K9EZ (for the week)

In reply to K9EZ:

Is that required in some countries?

Maybe. Though the fact you sign SM/K9EZ should be enough to indicate you are not where the callsign is registered. You need to check the CEPT regulations that Rob indicated and also if the local authorities have some extra rules.

Andy
MM0FMF

In reply to K9EZ:

In a related thought… why do stations sign /p when they are
portable in a different country. For example… SM/K9EZ/p? Is
that required in some countries?

Short answer - YES

All countries I have operated from I just used the portable country prefix,
unless of course I had an assigned call.

In Europe it’s common to use /P to indicate that you are away from a permanent station. In the UK it used to be required but isn’t any longer.

Colin G8TMV

In reply to G8TMV:

In Europe it’s common to use /P

It’s also far too common to sign /QRP… but you only do that if you don’t want to chase me or Les G3VQO! :wink:

Andy
MM0FMF

In reply to MM0FMF:

if the local authorities have some extra rules.

Sometimes they get quite pedantic. To get a Kenya visitor’s licence you have to give an address you’ll be staying at in Kenya, and that becomes your “home” address for the duration of your visit. If you operate anywhere else you’re required both to sign /P or /M (as appropriate) and to give your location as well. At least the licence is clear about it, though.

73, Rick M0LEP

In reply to M0LEP:

Same in Singapore and India, though some organizations are flexible if you talk to them. I think they basically want to know where they can reach you locally if needed. LOL in Singapore, Address: Marina Bay Sands Hotel… By the pool…with an adult beverage…and not the antenna.

Kent
SM/K9EZ

Well, I’d like mainly to discuss the call sign prefix of the visited country and not so much the /p suffix.
Just to avoid probable irritations.

In reply to OE7PHI:

It really depends on the country. In New Zealand, for example, you don’t need any paperwork and you can operate for up to 90 days using ZL/callsign or callsign/ZL

http://nzart.org.nz/info/visitors/

In South Korea you must apply for a permit. Then you can use HLx/callsign, where x is your region number, or you can request your own Korean (HL) callsign.

http://foreigner.karl.or.kr/index.php?mid=how_to_operate

In Japan you can only operate under the reciprocal agreement if your country is listed here:

You have to use your host’s callsign and your own callsign, and your host must be present.

Or, you can apply for a reciprocal licence (if your country is listed) by following these instructions:
http://jarl.or.jp/English/3_Application/A-3.htm
But I don’t know the format of the issued callsign.

HTH.

73,

Andrew

In reply to OE7PHI:

Not quite sure where the irritations would be… but alas, I am trying to understand the exact legalities so that I operate legally within each country. Hence my question. And yes I do operate from many countries.

Kent
SM/K9EZ

In reply to HL5ZBA:

In New Zealand, for example, you don’t need any paperwork and you can operate
for up to 90 days using ZL/callsign or callsign/ZL

Australia also has a similar arrangement. At present the ACMA page on the matter appears to be missing, but there’s a WIA page on the subject here:

http://www.wia.org.au/licenses/licensing/visitorinfo/

When I visited Australia back in April there seemed to be some confusion about how visiting amateurs should identify themselves. I eventually settled on M0LEP/VK with additional location information…

73, Rick M0LEP