Hi Morgan,
The truth is out. Me, My Dad M1EYP and Richard G3CWI all asked permission to walk up Hope Mountain GW/NW-062.
By the way Morgan, make sure it is Scafell Pike G/LD-001 this summer. Scafell was G/LD-002, but it deleted after 4 days since SOTA started.
Jimmy M3EYP
In reply to G8ADD:
Earlier today Brian, Andy FMF posted the following,
“Hey Morgan, you need to change your password, becasue your Dad has been banned from this reflector and he is making inflamatory comments using your account”
I was replying to it and it was deleted, but Barry 2E0PXW took a screen grab of it, and also Mick PVA saw it too and told my Dad, he was furious about it.
Morgan
PS Hi Jimmy, we are not doing it for SOTA, we are taking an old route to Scawfell summit with Richard our friend from Wasdale Mountain Rescue, and doing it just for the walk when we stay at the Bower House Inn at Eskdale Green, which belongs to our family and me and my cousin Olly are doing the walk with our Dads.
In reply to M3LMP:
Then I assume Andy removed it himself, Morgan, because I didn’t.
73
Brian G8ADD
In reply to G8ADD:
Just like to point out that our activation of Swinside was with full permission of the landowner and we have respected his wishes in keeping his details private. Can’t speak for the other three.
Rob and Audrey
G4RQJ
In reply to G4RQJ:
My apologies for the error, both.
73
Brian G8ADD
In reply to All:
I’m not really bothered either way about this but all this discussion has told me is to keep away from Hope and Swinside (and I’m sure there is at least another one ).
Maybe we should change the rules so that any activation can only be valid if it can take place from open access land or a PROW - then there will be no question as to whether permission was obtained or not… not open access to all then no valid activation - seems fair to me .
Keith.
In reply to G8HXE:
Good point, but are there any other summits that we need to get permission to climb, is there a list anywhere or if not could someone make a list perhaps ?
Thks
Morgan
M3LMP
In reply to G8HXE:
The original rules of SOTA (with the tweaks applied for clarity) were, and still should be, fair. Access is covered by the code of practice.
Some, like myself, wanted a change to 100m prominence but were turned down.
I was not too disappointed by that, as it set a standard for ALL.
Then to appease aggrieved associations the MT allowed 100m for SOME. This caused, and is still causing, much ill feeling and resentment.
moral - don’t fix it if it aint broke 
Roger G4OWG
(really got the HUMP)
ps can we stop this constant accuse/snipe syndrome on the reflector???
EDIT - this message was quoted verbatim on another forum. When I complained I was banned without explanation !
In reply to M3LMP:
is there a list anywhere or if not could someone make a list perhaps ?
Something for you to do during your school holidays!
In reply to whoever wants to listen:
I agree with Roger above, can we stop all this “bun fighting”. Its getting silly and embarrassing.
Better still, lets get rid of the reflector completely as it is beginning to serve little use and I feel does not entice any new potential participants to stay.
Leave the website with just the Spot and Alert system, that way no-one can be misunderstood/accused/offended/banned/etc/etc/etc.
Lets get on with this great hobby.
73
Disillusioned with SOTA
A.K.A John M0EAV
P.S. Sorry, getting off my soapbox now and crawling back into the dark corner!
In reply to M0EAV:
Actually John that’s not a bad idea.
Or move it from the spots/alerts pages so you have to think before accessing it.
Roger G4OWG
In reply to G4OWG:
…must be a Long Delay Echo.
In reply to G3CWI:
Don’t know how that happened Richard, but my XYL always accuses me of repeating myself 
Roger G4OWG
In reply to G3CWI:
With that delay, Roger must be sitting on Saturn, What’s the WX like Roger?
73 Marc G0AZS
In reply to G4OWG:
Or move it from the spots/alerts pages so you have to think before
accessing it.
I seem to recall this suggestion being made several times in the past Roger. I agree that’s where it belongs - maybe it would make more room for extension of the spots and alerts to overcome the issues that arise when there’s a lot of activity. Anyone else agree?
Gerald G4OIG
In reply to G4OWG:
You refreshed your browser and resent the FORM submission posting your comment again.
Andy
MM0FMF
In reply to G4OIG:
I agree, Gerald, it would be invaluable for the extension of spots and alerts - but I don’t think it will have much effect on reflector behaviour!
73
Brian G8ADD
In reply to G8ADD:
Its gone a bit off subject but I would prefer to see the forum elsewhere, less data to download on the mobile phone.
Back on the subject of we know what… Brian do you not fancy taking up the offer of meeting the farmer to put this to bed once and for all. Would be a great way of having a member of the MT hear the real facts…
If getting there is a problem, I would be happy to drive…
Steve
In reply to 2E0KPO:
You typed getting there twice Steve
Morgan
M3LMP
In reply to M3LMP:
Not easy on a 2.5" screen