I cannot understand why Black Mountain cannot be in G as well as GW SOTA regions as the border bisects the summit. Surely it is similar circumstances to DL/AL-001 and OE/TI-188 both listed as Biberkopf although Austria is claiming it as 2600m and Germany only 2599m - both activated today. I would be very interested to know the reasoning behind these decisions.
A border summit having two (or more) references is an undesirable necessity. I am sure you can appreciate the diplomacy and sensitivity required by SOTA MT when working with overseas associations. If two neighbouring associations that are different ‘foreign’ countries with different governments/administrations both want to include a border summit in their ARMs, then it is not the place of SOTA MT to tell them otherwise.
In the case of the UK associations, a single list (The Relatives Hills / Marilyns) covers all states, so there is no duplication. In Spain, where there are also multiple associations within the one (political) country, the AMs have worked well together to ensure that border summits are listed once only. The same applies within Germany (DL and DM).
Black Mountain was originally listed in the RHB lists as in England, so it originally had an English reference. That group now categorises that summit in Wales, hence the G reference was discontinued and replaced with a GW reference.
For a border summit to have two references, the summit must be right on the border. A mountain with its summit clearly inside one country, but with the activation zone extending into the other cannot be claimed by the latter. So the example you quote may be worthy of further examination, but the difference in summit heights may be no more than a difference in government-held data, rather than different ‘summit’ positions.
Anyway, Black Mountain is an easy walk. It hardly merits 6 points, let alone 12
In reply to M1EYP:
Thanks Tom and everyone very much for clearing this up for me.
I agree it is an easy and very enjoyable walk and I did enjoy my activation there yesterday, especially meeting in with Peter G3TJE also activating this summit.
Although the summit is classified as a GW summit,
I understand that if you are in the 'English part’
of the activation zone, you have to use your G or M
prefix. This anomaly also applied when it was G/WB-001,
and you had to use GW or MW when you were in the ‘Welsh
part’.
I have activated Black Mountain when it was G/WB-001 on the Welsh side and the callsign I was using was MW3EYP/P. I activated Black Mountain GW/SW-041 on the English side and the callsign I was using was M3EYP/P,
I used to enjoy deliberately setting up on the “wrong” side of the border - but this was when I was operating fone and could discuss my awkwardness with enquiring chasers. Since doing mainly CW activations, I couldn’t be bothered with that, so my last visit to Black Mountain was as an MW and my recent trip to Peel Fell was as an M!