GM/SS-175 & GM/SS-163: A Summit Report, An Apology & A Call For Help

I’ve never had much luck in the hills to the north of the Carron Valley, from finding live-baited bird traps, to being shouted at by a Northern-Irish Robocop, and breaking the back wheel of my bike a long way from home. It’s a hellish grouse moor and wind farm combination that I’m not sure why I ever come back to, but what it does have going for it, are two comparatively accessible SOTA Summits including one with a winter bonus. I had a couple of days off work ahead of Christmas, and rather than doing the sensible thing and waiting for the glorious blue skies on the 24th, I decided to head out on the 23rd of December, when the forecast was for overcast but dry conditions. MWIS had suggested a cloudbase of around 700m, ruling out any of the Munros or higher tops, but these two hills (GM/SS-175 Carleatheran and GM/SS-163 Stronend) were sitting around the 500m mark, so I figured I’d have an easy day on my hands.

I parked up at Todholes Farm, as it’s the approach I’m more familiar with from running and cycling around this area, although with hindsight, parking at the Gargunnock/Kippen side would’ve probably been a better approach, the drop down wasn’t nearly as scary looking in reality as I thought it might’ve been from looking at the map. From Todholes, the wind farm tracks make fast and easy progress most of the way to Carleatheran, with only a last couple of hundred metres needed across a soft grassy scrape to the summit shelter.

As you can maybe tell from the image, the cloud base had not in fact been at 700m at all, but probably closer to about 350-400m. Still, other than everything being OmniDamp™, the rain had stayed off and it was time to get hunkered down in the small stone fortress. There’s a handy trig point in the middle of the summit shelter, complete with open cap, so I popped the 4m fibreglass pole up with the Spectrum Slim G and got cracking.

This is where the first part of the apology comes in - on calling CQ, I got the impression that there were a few more people getting back to me than I was able to hear. Thankfully Robert @GM4GUF came through nice and clearly all the way from Biggar (and was very helpful at trying to help me with my receiving troubles), then Eoghann @MM0EMC in Perthshire and Alan @GM7VCV in Kilbirnie followed closely behind. My big problem was that I seemed to be getting quite a lot of FM broadcast breaking through into my receive and wiping out whatever I could hear - I knew there were a couple of masts in the area, but I hadn’t seemed to have so much trouble when activating on the nearby Meikle Bin the week before. I could definitely hear a few people trying to respond to my calls, so apologies if I was inadvertently rude and stepping over any replies. Unfortunately even my attempts to swap to my backup handheld, or swap the big Slim G for a smaller 40cm whip weren’t much more useful. Eventually however, I did manage to get Adam @2M1ADM in Linlithgow in the log, so that meant I could get packed up and get moving towards my second summit.

I was already behind schedule, and getting my four contacts at Carleatheran took a good bit longer than planned, so my next move was to resort to trail runner mode and do a wee shuffly jog back to the wind farm track, to generate a bit of body heat after sitting still for so long if nothing else.

There wasn’t much of a view, but I followed the track over the side of Ling Hill, and down towards the Spout of Ballochleam, with a not entirely welcome case of having to wade through a vigorous wee burn ford, that I’m sure would’ve been an easy hop to cross in the summer. That my boots were now full of water at least meant that the soft boggy quad track up to the summit of Stronend didn’t really phase me too much.

The track up from the Spout of Ballochleam is essentially just a soft quad bike track up through the grass, and while it’s never really enough to call a structured path or track, it was simple enough to follow, mostly running parallel to the Boquhan Burn all the way to the summit.

Once again, the summit at Stronend is marked with a handy stone shelter wrapped around a trig point with an open top, so up went the Slim G and out went some more CQ calls. Once again, I was having a lot of trouble with music breaking into my receive, and probably even worse than previously on Carleatheran. My other problem was that the summit shelter was built to protect against the prevailing southwesterly, so of course the wind happened to be a robust easterly, so I had to use the trig point itself for what wind shelter I could get from it.

After a wee bit of trying, I managed to pick up Norman @GM1CNH in Edinburgh, and a few minutes later got Peter @GM0VEK in Kirkintilloch. That’s me now 3/3 - I’ve managed to catch Peter on all three of my SOTA days so far. A good while and lots of swearing later, I managed to catch Colwyn @MM0YCJ over in the Pentlands on Allermuir Hill (GM/SS-171).

I was starting to lose patience by this point, and being acutely aware of being short of daylight, only a couple of days on the right side of the winter solstice. My hands were getting cold and thoughts of a hot, carb-heavy dinner were starting to overpower any desire to get SOTA points, and you know that saying about how three buses come at once? Well, sure enough, first I caught Chris @MM0UHR who was cycling on the canal, then regular contact and pal from the Meshtastic group Paddy @MM7IGV, and finally just as I was starting to get ready to fling everything in the rucksack, Steve @GM1DSK came through from Perthshire.

From there, it was again time to reactivate trail runner mode, and take advantage of the fact that it was easier to shuffle downhill through the soft bog than it was dragging myself up it. Highlight of my exit route was the usual excuse for a wee giggle at the map and favourite water feature “Backside Burn”.

Strava Activity:

Carleatheran Activation Log:

Stronend Activation Log:

Anyway, beyond the activation day itself, I was having an absolutely hellish time with the receive on my radio, and this has been a wee bit of a common theme. I’m new to amateur radio (I passed my foundation in October 2025, and just upgraded to my intermediate in early December 2025, and I’ve just been using a couple of cheap hand-held radios to get me started. The radio in question I was using for this activation was the Tidradio TD-H8 - I’d seen some of Fraser (MM0EFI)'s youtube videos where he’d had some pretty good results on RF-heavy hilltops with the H8, but I was getting fairly audible music coming through on mine, so I don’t know if mine was maybe from a different batch etc., or whether it’s good against pagers and the like but not so useful against broadcast stations?

My other radio that I’d previously used on hilltops or out and about was the Radtel RT-920, and the biggest problem I’d had with it was that I’d get a periodic burst of noise overpowering the RX every couple of seconds, which I’d assumed must’ve been from mobile masts or pagers or similar. In previous contacts, I was encountering a lot of interference around the mobile masts at Port Dundas in Glasgow with this handset.

I’m aware that these cheap Chinese radios all use a fairly similar build approach, using an SDR type chip to digitally sample the RF signal and process it from there, and that a classic superheterodyne type receiver with better input filtering would be the way to go for better performance in situations like these. The tricky thing I’m finding at the moment, is how to get my hands on a superhet-based HT without spending loads of money. From what I can gather, there are plenty of models out there, but most of these have been discontinued now (Yaesu FT-60, Icom V86 etc.). My call for help is mostly this: does anybody know of a cheap-ish simple superhet-based handy that’s good for dealing with this sort of thing? I’d also looked at picking up something like the Sotabeams bandpass filter, but it seems to have been out of stock for a while.

Anyway, trying to suss out the source of the interference, my guesses at the culprits would likely either be Earl’s Hill (various radio) which was about 5km from Carleatheran, or the Fintry telly transmitter which was about 3km west of Stronend? Also, there were various other bits of mast kicking about, including the weather station for the Earlsburn and Kingsburn wind farms, and two masts that I couldn’t identify just on the other side of Backside Burn (approx location grid square NS 65 88)

Sorry for the rambly post - any help or advice from more experienced heads would be very welcome!

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The better-for-SOTA handies come up on eBay regularly. It’s just a matter of watching and waiting. There’s an FT-60 and VX-170 for sale now but I feel they are a little bit pricey in my view.

You can buy a filter as well to make an improvement too. Sotabeams sell one.

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There are a couple of options on the radio side with the main problem being the filtering on the receive side of the cheaper end of the Chinese handheld market. These do have the problem that attaching any antenna other than a rubber duck causes them to fall over rather easily.

There is a filter you can get from sotabeams which apparently works quite well which sits inline between the HH and antenna. There is a bit of loss on the signal but that is better than hearing nothign at all.

The other option is to upgrade the radio. I am sure that everyone will have their own favourite, with mine being the almost as cheap as Chinese, Yaesu FT-4X. Very simple to operate and whilst similar in build to the boafeng/quansheng etc , it does have some additional filtering.

Another possibility is a small beam antenna, mounted vertically will give some attenuation of signals off the back of the antenna, but that doesn’t help if the wanted signal is in the same direction as the interference.

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I have an FT4X and i really like how it works on the summits, but for a little more i’d go for the FT-65.

Testing my Slim Jim with FT4X and repeater at 140km

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Yeah, I’d had a look at the FT-4X and the FT-65 (thanks @EA4WT), but my understanding was that these were essentially using the same SDR-based construction as the Chinese radios, so my big fear there would be that I’d end up spending more money and just end up with a similar problem, although I’m sure the Yaesus are built to a generally much higher standard and with more robust filtering on the front.

And that’s right when I start thinking… maybe an FT-70 or an Icom IC-T10, but they’re probably a wee bit beyond what I’d want to spend right now.

In my opinion, Yaesu radios work better on summits than Tid radios… I have two H3-plus models. The FT-70 is a step up, but it’s also twice the price, although it does have C4FM… people complain about its battery life.

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Ah, that’s good to know about the FT-4X vs the Tidradio H3s. I’d also heard that about the FT-70 and battery life, and I’m not especially bothered about having any of the digital modes or anything else, I’d just like a really solid 2m handy!

It’s better than many but it’s not perfect. I used one and it was being desensed on a summit. On the same summit at VX-7 was completely unusable. My VX-170 had no issues. I was able to have QSOs with the FT-70 but it wasn’t as good as I was expecting.

Ah OK, that’s good to know about the FT-70 not being quite as hot as it might seem at first glance. I’ve been having a look at eBay, but either the prices seem generally a bit higher than I’d expect, or there’s some fairly well-used looking gear!

Perhaps a second-hand/vintage Big Three would be an option? Those shouldn’t be too dear today, although new battery is often a must.

I don’t have it, but another thing I don’t like about the FT-70 is the volume control…

Three negative points. :grinning_cat_with_smiling_eyes:

A second-hand option… a friend of mine uses the Yaesu VX-6 and rates it very highly; it’s waterproof, which is always an advantage on summits. He also uses it with Slim Jim.

What do you think of that walkie?

Hi Ross,

good to hear you yesterday and well done on the activations. No need to apologise when you are out in such conditions and I didn’t hear any swearing!

Andy (@MM7MOX) was calling you from Edinburgh. He could hear you but clearly you couldn’t hear him.

I have been using an FT4X for a couple of years with no problems, after the carrier on my VX7 started to get noisy. The VX7 still works, is still waterproof but an estimate for a repair was prohibitive and the FT4X I was using yesterday is excellent value.

What about getting a second hand FT817ND or 818ND? Quite heavy for VHF perhaps but, looking to the future, it will allow you start using HF and allow you to do the 2026 challenge!!!

73

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I made it over the burn with dry feet last week (although the atv track particularly east of the burn was pretty squelchy) :grinning_face: But you could see the water levels were frequently higher with all the water flattened vegetation around the burn. As that “well known” saying goes “Even a squelchy day on the hill is better than a day in A&E at the children’s hospital with a sick small person”

Your unidentified masts are 2 wind farm development meteorological masts (for monitoring wind speeds/directions) - probably these 2 in the link below - looks like a 4 turbine development on the west side of the burn with access over the track from the north (which probably means they couldn’t agree to share the existing access track to the existing turbines with the owner of that one).

They’ve probably got a small modem in to upload data via the 4G network and if you look closely you can see a stack of PV panels and battery boxes at the base of each.

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I suppor that recommendation…but FT-817ND.

It’s a different league.

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I was just using a Quansheng with it’s own antenna to chase from Edinburgh yesterday and could hear MM9ROS 57 from both hills. I understood we had a valid QSO from Carleatheran since I heard MM9ROS repeat my callsign and signal report.

Same radio from same place on the cycle track bridge at Crewe toll today was successful at a QSO with Archie GM4KNU on Meikle Bin.

My usual activation setup is an FT818 with a home made flowerpot for 2m and link dipole for HF based on a Sotabeams kit with extra links added for 6m, 10m, 12m, 17m, 20m and 40m which also does 15m. Hoisted on a 6m sotabeams pole.

Lately when it’s been cold and unpleasant on the hills I ‘ve just done 2m, 40m and 15m which means I don’t have to drop the pole to change any links, and is a bit quicker.

Andy

MM7MOX

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Aye, thanks Colwyn, was doing my best to keep the swearing off the air! I think a nice mobile unit is definitely on the cards at some point, and getting into HF also looks pretty appealing, but I think my main priority for now is a useful handheld. I’m going to be doing a lot of running in the hills in the months ahead, so having something I can stick in a running pack is probably the more important thing.

I’m hoping to get out in the Pentlands sometime soon after Christmas, so I’ll hopefully hear you if I don’t see you!

Yup, I was just imagining that burn being a wee trickle while I was in it up to my knees, but like you say, definitely rather have a slightly damp day out in the hills than some of the other stuff life can throw at you.

Thanks for the intel on the masts, I had a wee look at the full planning documents and it looks like they’re going to build a new road to replace the wee track up from the Kippen side, so that might make it even easier to approach from that direction. Good to know about the masts just being simple 4G transmitters, I was figuring they couldn’t be pushing out too much based on the solar panels. Interestingly enough, on reading the environmental impact report, I was a wee bit glad and a wee bit surprised to read that there were Black Grouse up on the moor there. I could’ve sworn I’d seen one flying up on my way up towards Stronend, but thought it’d have been pretty unlikely with the amount of shooting around there and figured it must’ve been dodgy spotting by me.