Can any EA stations help me with this?

I’d LOVE play on summits in EA5, some time in the next few months. I’ve found a possible solution: FEDI-EA - Application for Authorization for non resident foreigners - Trámites - la Radioafición

..but there are some aspects of the form I don’t understand. Is anyone is familiar with this, and/or can you help?

(what I don’t want to do is make a mistake, causing a 6 week delay)

:folded_hands:

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I presume you can not work via the CEPT regulations because you are not having a full licence in the UK yet?
Because otherwise there is no need for a guest licence.

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Exactly right.

I have no interest in any potential offered by the full exam (apart from being able to operate overseas).

Are you sure a UK radio amateur without a full Licence – i.e. Foundation or Intermediate - can get a temporary reciprocal license in Spain?

I think reciprocal agreements - like CEPT rules - are based on a recognised level of competence, which in the UK is demonstrated by the Full Licence and its included HAREC (Harmonised Amateur Radio Examination Certificate).

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@M9OMS Are you a member of EURAO?

European Radio Amateurs’ Organization | the open global radio amateurs community

If not, I would suggest joining them and then dropping them an email to request help with completing and submitting the form for you.

That’s what they did for Nic (2E0NYQ) and we had her reciprocal licence back very quickly, so we could operate in EA3 over Christmas/New Year just gone.

It’s only a few € to join EURAO and you will get additional benefits too (insurance, QSL bureau) etc.

73, Simon

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Hi Andy @G8CPZ,

There is a special arrangement with the Spanish telecomm’s authority that now means UK intermediate’s can operate, but they must have a reciprocal licence in place covering the time they wish to operate.

e.g. we just came back having visited EA3. We had to specify where we would be etc.

I am not aware of this agreement applying to other countries, but happy to be corrected.

73, Simon

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Sounds ideal! Thank you - my poor little brain could do with that sort of help HI.

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I didn’t see that exception mentioned on the RSGB website, where it states: Reciprocal agreements and CEPT operation do not apply to Foundation or Intermediate licences. The UK is not party to CEPT ECC Rec-05(06).
Maybe, it’s a fairly recent change. Well, good news anyway.

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Hi Andy,

The RSGB are not always 100% accurate, certainly their webpages are frequently out of date, so I’d be wary about trusting them implicitly :wink::grin:. Indeed, some of their views are quite odd compared to some of the wider radio community (thinking about 8m access here etc).

This Spanish agreement has been in place for at least 6 months. I applied for Nic’s licence back in May 2025, so it’s been available for a while…

73, Simon

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Write to the Spanish Amateur Radio Association, URE ure@ure.es
Explains what you want and maybe they can help you.

73 de EA4R Alf

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Slightly off topic… this is exactly the reason I studied for the Advanced exam for the Full UK Licence. It opened up a literal world of opportunity. Well worth the effort in my case. I too had no need of any other opportunity afforded by the Full UK Licence, with the possible exception of access to the 60m bandlets.

It was well worth the moderate effort for me. You may of course think it is not worth that effort, a view point I absolutely respect.

73 Gerald

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The Spanish link given by Alf/EA4R is also in English - or at least I’ve been able to read in English using google to pull up the entire site in English.

The fact that a foundation or intermediate licence holder is not necessarily covered by CEPT doesn’t mean you cannot operate elsewhere.

Some years ago I remember a UK foundation holder posting on this site about him operating in Norway. Someone on here asked how he managed to get permission as a non-full licence holder and his reply was that he simply wrote/emailed the appropriate authority in Norway asking if he could operate there and he got permission.

Good Luck!

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Best of all they didn’t give him a Japanese callsign the way Ofcom do when people ask to operate in the UK with non CEPT licences! :rofl:

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Spanish Gestor here. Feel free to send me the form and tell me your doubts about it.

For others like you in the same situation: No full granted license under CEPT T/R 61-01 Recomendation. In that case, need a temporary authorization from spanish telecomunications authority, for 90 days max. Aplication is necesary under the #15 of the Order IET/1311/2013, July 9th.

“Artículo 15. Autorizaciones temporales para extranjeros sin licencia CEPT.”

(“Article 15. Temporary authorisations for foreigners without a CEPT licence.”
”Under the conditions established in these regulations, SETSI may authorise the holder of a valid amateur radio station licence issued by another country that has not adopted CEPT Recommendation T/R 61-01 to operate their station while temporarily in Spanish territory. The application must include the applicant’s full name, nationality, address and the original or certified photocopy of the licence from their country of origin. The equipment to be used must comply with Spanish regulations on equipment and devices. The period of validity of any temporary authorisation issued shall not exceed 90 days.”)

Until 2022, the interpretation equated licences granted by countries that did not adopt the CEPT with licences from countries that did adopt the CEPT but, because they had more types of licences, some did not comply with the CEPT. In that year, due to the replacement of civil servants at the SETSI, the new ones interpreted the opposite.

After many months of litigation with amateur radio associations, the following conclusion was reached:
”This case also applies to amateur radio operators with a valid licence issued by another country that has adopted CEPT Recommendation T/R 61-01, but whose licence is not ‘HAREC level’.”

73 Salva

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I will do it eventually (for the privilege of operating overseas)… but I need a bit of quiet time to get it done. :crossed_fingers:

There are some elements of the form that are unclear to me, but I did my best HI,

THANK YOU - I’ve sent it. Don’t laugh at the translation (OK laugh, but not too loud HI).

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Salva - the English is excellent, as is the spelling. :+1:

Maybe this will help you: Public file share - Nextcloud - Deutscher Amateur-Radio-Club e. V.

73, Milos S57D

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Only write an email to ure@ure.es.

I made a mistake when I put the hyperlink

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Hi Simon,

I joined Eurao as you suggested - however contacting them via their online form led to an ‘undeliverable’ bounce back email in response. Perhaps the email address for their EA representative has changed?

Regardless, there is another solution - going to Fedi EA direct. Here’s some information from M0GYL.

Going International With a Foundation or Intermediate License.

Fedi EA work with Eurao (they are part of it) - so I have sent it to Fedi EA instead. Membership of Fedi EA offers the same benefits (it includes Eurao membership), so I’m assuming it’ll get treated in the same way.

Fingers crossed it gets sorted.

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Hiya @M9OMS ,

Try emailing them, if you don’t get anything via the FEA route. eurao@eurao.org

Now you are a member, you can also use their QSL bureau - I think you need to register separately, if that is something that you may want to utilise. Info here: https://www.eurobureauqsl.org/

73, Simon

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