Just worked DF2GN/P who has been working the pile up on BW-195 by numbers.
What part of number x do people not understand?
If he calls NR4 that means he won’t work you if your call has anything but a 4 in it! That includes I1YDT which does not have a 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 or zero in it regardless of how many times you call!
Lets give the activators a bit of a chance please.
Pete
In reply to G4ISJ:
Just worked DF2GN/P who has been working the pile up on BW-195 by
numbers.
What part of number x do people not understand?
If he calls NR4 that means he won’t work you if your call has anything
but a 4 in it! That includes I1YDT which does not have a
2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 or zero in it regardless of how many times you call!
Lets give the activators a bit of a chance please.
Hi Pete,’
It’s always a tricky situation when you’re trying to make a S2S with an activator who is working by number. Do I call out S2S or sit in the pile-up the same as everyone else?
One of the advantages of being 2E0YYY, is I have two numbers in my callsign, giving me something an advantage over many of chasers 
73 Mike
2E0YYY
In reply to G4ISJ:
Indeed !
Also to I1YDT, may I suggest that you add more space between the characters of your callsign. Ideally there should be a 3 dot space between letters whereas you typically send with more like a 1 dot space. This makes it hard to decode your callsign and I have heard a number of Activators take a few times to get your callsign. I hope that helps …
73s Andrew G4AFI
In reply to 2E0YYY:
One of the advantages of being 2E0YYY, is I have two numbers in my
callsign, giving me something an advantage over many of chasers
…and 5Z4/M0LEP does even better (stretching a point), though chances are, when working with that callsign, I’d be the one trying to work by numbers, and split…
73, Rick M0LEP
In reply to M0LEP:
…and 5Z4/M0LEP does even better (stretching a point), though chances
are, when working with that callsign, I’d be the one trying to work by
numbers, and split…
Hi Rick,
More numbers than a Bingo caller
Have you any more plans to visit 5Z4?
73 Mike
2E0YYY
In reply to 2E0YYY:
Have you any more plans to visit 5Z4?
Havn’t visited my sister for a while, so next trip will be to VK6. Less likely to be working by numbers from there, though.
Baggage a bit more restricted on those flights than on the ones to 5Z4 though, so may have to take a lighter rig than the 706.
73, Rick M0LEP
In reply to 2E0YYY:
It’s always a tricky situation when you’re trying to make a S2S with
an activator who is working by number. Do I call out S2S or sit in the
pile-up the same as everyone else?
If he’s working by numbers you wait. That’s how it works, you call for a number or prefix and YOU MUST refuse to work everyone who does not match. If you work the odd one for some reason you lose control. Once people know you are fair in how you work they are more likely to behave. There will always be some who don’t follow the instructions, you send them NIL and move on.
One of the advantages of being 2E0YYY, is I have two numbers in my
callsign, giving me something an advantage over many of chasers
I know a lot of people who would give you a NIL and move on should you call with 2E0YYY when they ask for “number two”. Like you I have a 0 and people often forget that one when working numbers 
Andy
MM0FMF
Working by numbers is a bad tactic as some of those that realise they’ve got 8 or 9 numbers worth to wait through can get impatient and call out of turn. Best way is the FSDXA method (although I am sure it is much more widespread than that group), where you give your callsign, listen to the calls, and pick one out. If you can’t pick one out, send a partial, then ONLY work someone with a matching partial!
Where I sometimes fall below this method is by not giving my callsign every time - I really must make more effort to do this. With the full break-in mod done on the HB1B, I need not wait for the tail-enders to all shut up before calling my chosen station in. Also, I get to hear who is not playing fair, and mentally put them to the back of the queue!
Tom M1EYP
In reply to M1EYP:
Working by numbers is a bad tactic
Yup! +1
In reply to M1EYP:
where you give your callsign, listen to the calls, and pick one out. If you > can’t pick one out, send a partial, then ONLY work someone with a matching
partial!
Tried that way myself on 40m SSB today not sure how successful it was. You tend to waste a lot of time listening to the bable trying to spot a useful conbination of letters but it does give you time for the odd swollow of tea/coffee/water/put on your gloves/write a short story etc.
Note for Tom: Not going up Cadair Berwyn ever again!! On Monday’s decent the SOTA beam emptied its contents - the elements - somewhere. Hence the HF today and I didn’t find the loss until I got up Foel Goch. So I was cold, wet and p***ed off. Have ordered a new SOTA beam from Richard.
Peter
G1FOA
In reply to M1EYP:
We’re talking a SOTA activation here, not a Dxpedition to South Sandwich.
Last year, I made over 8300 SOTA qso’s on the phone with barely a glich.
73 Mike
2E0YYY
Ah, there speaks a man who has never encountered the delights of a SOTA/WFF pile-up on 20m CW! I had a rare “all phone” day today, and with never more than 4 stations at a time in the mini pile-up, it was a doddle. Overall QSO rate was about 30 per hour in three hours total operating time, so very relaxed compared to CW…
Tom M1EYP
In reply to M1EYP:
Ah, there speaks a man who has never encountered the delights of a
SOTA/WFF pile-up on 20m CW!
I had a 20m pile-up on SSB today which was pretty challenging.
Peter
G1FOA
In reply to 2E0YYY:
Last year, I made over 8300 SOTA qso’s on the phone with barely a
glich.
You should try using a radio next time !
Stewart G0LGS
In reply to G0LGS:
In reply to 2E0YYY:
You should try using a radio next time !
Stewart
That’s a bit unkind - funny but a bit unkind
Peter
G1FOA
In reply to G4ISJ:
Hi Pete,
thanks for all. but the mistake was made by me. never tried working by numbers before…but i wan´t try it out. i say i can not speak about something i never tried out 
but i have a lot of fun in the little pile ups , so no problem…i had my fun
i only see the problem that i´m as activator sends qrp-sigs. and by many callers with big sigs its not easy sometimes to copy my sigs in the qrm…so the chasers have not the easiest work.a few times i thinking about to calling 1 up or so on 30m, but this need to much bandwith on this small band,more bandwith as really needed…but maybe it helps to copy my signal.
The best tactic for me to work the pile up is … sit back and enjoy the pile up…and i really like that.stop a few seconds and pick the stations out one after the other…it works good for me. 30m is my favourite band now.
also 17m is vy fine.
yesterday on dm/bw-195 i was qrv with two antennas. a vertical pol. delta loop on 18mhc abt 13m high in a tree and a linked dipole on 30&40m. the feedpoint of the dipole was only 2m over ground and this antenna worked vy vy good.i wonder about the big sigs from uk on this ant.output power was 6watt on 17m and abt.10watts on 30 and 40m.more is not possible with a single 2sc1969 as pa.
all the best and hope to work you again from the summits
greetings klaus
In reply to DF2GN:
Hi Klaus,
Thanks for this 2 way qrp contact on 7mhz. I didn’t heard you on 10mhz ! (And not QRV on 18mhz with my HB1B Trx)
Maybe you should try to operate using the split mode, up 2khz, it should be more confortable for all.
Cheers,
Chris, F5RQG/P