By now, most SOTA participants will be aware that a major review of summits in DL/DM is taking place. This comprises deletion of listed summits that are found non-complaint with the P100 parameter, correction of some positional information, and the inclusion of some newly-identified summits. It is a major undertaking, involving the Association Managers, their Regional Managers and the MT in a lot of work. Inevitably, it will be some time before the task is complete.
Once the new lists are stable, the relevant Association Reference Manuals will be updated with the revised lists. Meanwhile, in order to ensure that SOTA participants do not inadvertently use out-of-data summit information, the German ARMs have been temporarily removed from the main SOTA website.
I submitted a new ARM to the SOTA MT on 28 January 2009. There has been no response. I asked them about again, and there has been no answer. Anyway I decided to publish our (preliminary if you want) ARM on our SOTA-DL web site
under Home->Assoziation->Referenz
because I have been asked several times whether a new ARM is available.
Thank you for bringing this oversight to our attention. Hopefully the
current ARMs will be on the website soon.
On a related point, I think it would be useful to reinstate the 1-page index of all official SOTA documents. It used to be like that, but now you have to visit the association first and then get the manual, which is a trifle tedious if you want to download several.
I’m not suggesting getting rid of the current scheme, just supplementing it with a simple flat index. It could be as simple as enabling an automatic index of Summits on the Air, which currently gives “403 Forbidden”.
Hi, Dzianis, I have checked around and nobody has received anything from you since 26 January 2009. I suggest you check the address you used and resend the material so that it can be processed.
I resent the new ARM and forwarded my two previous emails from 28 and 29 January 2009 to G8ADD, GM4ZFZ and of course to M1EYP. I hope you have got them now.
I’m sorry to disturb you again, but there has been no response again regarding the new ARM. Could you explain the SOTA community what the problem is, please.
There seems to be a deathly silence about these ARMs. Is there a problem with them ? Are they not approved ? The ARM is on the DM Sota Website but not on the main SOTA site. The new summits are not in the database which made it difficult for me to spot DL3SBA/P on DM/NW-251 this afternoon. Some clarification requested if you please.
If you go to the SOTA database you will find the new summits in DM/RP,DM/NW > and DM/NS and minor changes in DM/SX, SR
73
Walter
DK1BN
Hi Walter,
Many thanks for your reply.
Indeed they are, but the ARMs are still not on the main website for some reason, (I know they are on the German SOTA site) and when I tried to spot DM/NW-251 this afternoon, the system did not recognise the summit, and still does’nt. Also the post from DD1LD on March 22nd on this thread regarding the ARMs still has not been answered.
The jobs of putting updated ARMs on the website, and that of updating SOTAwatch to reflect Database changes, are all in the portfolio of Jon GM4ZFZ. At present, Jon is away on business, and has been so for over a week, hence why the tasks remain outstanding.
He does return in the next few days, so hopefully the matters will be addressed within another week.
SOTAwatch has now been updated, so new DM summits are recognised.
We are working on getting hold of the latest DM ARM in order to place that on the main SOTA website, but all of its data is OK in SOTAwatch and the Database.
Indeed they are, but the ARMs are still not on the main website for
some reason, (I know they are on the German SOTA site) and when I
tried to spot DM/NW-251 this afternoon, the system did not recognise
the summit, and still does’nt. Also the post from DD1LD on March 22nd
on this thread regarding the ARMs still has not been answered.
I see its ARMs in the plural now, Mike. The DL ARM is being dealt with. In the context I assume you refer to the DM ARM as well. When we receive it we will see about uploading it.
Look, if you guys want to interact with the MT, do it via the correct route. The reflector is not the correct route because it is bound to be a bit hit and miss, you are depending on the member of the MT who deals with whatever topic you wish to discuss actually catching your reflector post. Directly addressing the MT guarantees a response. Click on reply to any topic and below the reply box in the fine print you will see The Management Team underlined, just click on that.
In reply to G4BLH:
For goodness sake, Mike, stop being so abrasive, it is really quite unnecessary! I was trying to be helpful by showing how the delays in responding to queries can be shortened, if you take that to yourself and interpret it as being a smack on the wrists then you are being hypersensitive - besides, S&M leaves me cold!
Just to clarify, in your post of 22:15 yesterday and the earlier one you refered to “ARMs” , and above you specifically refer to the DM ARM, whereas the discussion was about the DL ARM. I repeat that we have not yet received the DM ARM and are therefore unable to progress it.
