Albania, ZA as an association in the future

Actually I am travelling around in Albania on a holyday-trip, hoping, that all the summits here are being created to an new associating soon. However, when the time comes, when those dreams become true, mind the very important fact: !!! Although Albania is a member of CEPT, you will have to apply for a foreigner - license !!!

Have look at https://files.darc.de/index.php/s/CKT38kZP6miK7xf?dir=/&editing=false&openfile=true and find details there.
My knowledge actually is following:

  • application is possible on digital way
    • but
  • !!! pick up of license only personally at the local telecom authority in Tirana!!! –>> big challenge !!!

My actuall ZA-license is valid for 4 months.
But unfortunatly I only be able to do chaser-qsos. :frowning:

73, Franz
ZA/OE5FSM/p

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I think it is not entirely as you describe — unless you had planned from the outset to transmit from Albania for more than 90 days.

It is normal, or rather common, that within a CEPT country one may operate for up to 90 days (3 months); after that period you MUST apply for a local licence based on your existing CEPT licence. There are usually stricter restrictions for holders of Novice-class licences.

According to this document: https://docdb.cept.org/download/2ae38a89-e58a/TR6101.pdf

In order to transmit from Albania you must hold a CEPT licence — sine qua non, unless, of course, you plan to sit the exam there and obtain a local radio licence.:wink:
The document you referenced states that short-term operation (typically up to 90 days) also does not require an additional licence.
The key distinction is the length of the period during which one intends to operate in another CEPT country, or in a country recognising CEPT principles — for short periods, no additional licence is required.
I hope I am not mistaken.

If you wished to transmit from OM, OK, DL or SP for more than 90 days — you would also have to apply for a local radio licence there.

Vy 73 Jacek SQ9MDN

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TR6101 indeed does not stipulate that you need a guest license. But AI search tells me that you need it …

Hmmm. 73 de Martin / HB9GVW

Seems to depend on which AI you’re asking, mine did not mention the necessity of a guest license and confirms what the document of the DARC says.

Did you ask your AI for source documents or the rationale for this statement?

73 Jens HB9EKO

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I didn’t discuss this further with the AI. Just a quick search.

But I am astonished that if Albania insists on a guest license, they do not note it on TR6101. After all that’s the doc I got from docdb.cept.org. They should know about the rules.

Maybe an Albanian amateur can shed some light on this issue.

73 de Martin /HB9GVW

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Hello Jacek!
See the screenshot underneeth.

That’s what I am referring to. For example compare it with the rules of OE.

vy 73, Franz

ZA/OE5FSM/p

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The screenshot is nice, additionally a link would have been better. It seems that the fine print in footnote 2 (not shown) takes away / restricts / makes access difficult in contrast to what is promised in “T/R 61-01 implemented”.

73 de Martin / HB9GVW

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Yes, agree. In theory TR6101 should mean I turn up and operate as ZA/G4LLD/P on Albania allocated frequencies etc. with no more admin needed. I suppose it’s a bit like Malta used to. There you could have a 9H5xxx call if you had a CEPT approved licence, now you just operate as 9H/G4LLD/P etc. But it’s just a wee bit of extra hassle to arrange.

Not sure I have ever had a QSO with a ZA station.

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Once more the link shown already on 21. june:

Franz is right.

I like to verify at the source, which is why I noted in my earlier post that I hoped I wasn’t mistaken. As it turned out, I was wrong. The DARC and CEPT data are of a high standard, but you should always check the local radio regulator to see which regulations apply at any given time, or the national amateur radio society (which is not a source in itself, but is nonetheless helpful).

We live in an age in which language barriers are gradually fading. I hadn’t had time to check earlier, but I finally looked at the websites of the Autoriteti i Komunikimeve Elektronike dhe Postare (AKEP) and the Federata Shqiptare e Radioamatorizmit.

I found useful information confirming Franz’s data on:
https://fshra.org/faq/
as well as on the AKEP page https://akep.al/wp-content/uploads/images/stories/AKEP/rregullore/2017/RREGULLORE_PER_SHERBIMET_RADIOAMATORE_2.pdf — the details are given on page 5 of that document.

Chapeau bas, Franz

Vy 73 Jacek SQ9MDN

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Any explanation on the WHY?

How can one sign a international regulation and then dabble back and add extra (imho useless) rules?

Oh I forgot. Politics and military :face_with_peeking_eye:

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