A wrong 2m Slim Jim

After settling with FT-857 as my main SOTA rig, I was thinking what to do with my trusty TM-V71 VHF/UHF FM only radio. I live in an apartament block with no balcony or any other means to put an outdoor aerial, so home use was not apparent at all. To complicate things even more, windows here are ‘Low-emission (Low-E) glass’ which severely blocks VHF freqs and up.

My past experiments with all variants of 1/4s never really worked satisfactionary. Nevertheless, I’ve decided to give it a go and try something again. I’ve opted for a vertical dipole first. Some wire cut to size and sello taped to a plastic window frame. To get decent SWR on 2m dipole size had to be cut more than I was expected for the band, but that worked, I’ve started to reliably receive our local repeater with S7-9 !

Next, looking if things can be improved further I’ve untaped the dipole and quickly taped in a traditional Slim Jim variant made of 0.9mm tinned copper wire. Due to indoor settings and some metal around and inside of the window frame traditional Slim Jim size had to be slightly reduced again. I’ve got SWR 1.5 and the repeater started to come solid S9 though!

While fine tuning the SWR I’ve messed up with wire size and had to take the Slim Jim down just to redo it again.

For experiment sake I’ve purposedly put my next version with much more length, planning to find where the best SWR resides within 100-150MHz range while cutting away and getting closer to a traditional Slim Jim sizing.

To my surprize, the best SWR for my indoor Slim Jim version has come to 1.0 at the below measurements. Well, I know a dummy load would show the same result, so next comes the testing.

The repeater sigs came to great S9+10db, moreover I’ve started to hear Sunday’s IRTS News reader EI6K 25km away. Next, I’ve started to hear 144.825 Internet gateway few km further. The best test, however, was SOTA chasing of my local summits where I’ve successfully made few 5-20km QSOs.

Naturally, I won’t get much further than 20-30km, but having it indoors, in literally a Faraday box is fairly inspiring.

To finalize, I’ve tried to compare to a traditionally sized Slim Jim in the same settings. Suprisingly, on a traditional version I couldn’t hear much apart of my local repeater.

It is by no means a proper test as indoor settings are interfere with everything, but at least I can now chase my local summits at home :slight_smile:

Maybe our antenna experts can aproximate what on Earth did I get with those sizes?

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Taping to a plastic window frame can change the velocity factor of both the radiator and the matching stub (but by different amounts). You will likely find that it varies with the spacing away from the plastic. Such issues have often been reported when J-poles (including Slim-JIM) are installed inside plastic water pipe for support.

At least, that’s what I would expect is the issue at first glance. If moving it 5cm away from the plastic changes the SWR curve significantly, that likely is what is happening.

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All I use, chucked on a windowsill:

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Thanks Dale, I never thought about that. That adds on top of other surroundings: E-glass, some metal in the window perimeter, plastic … Well, all that makes any calculations fairly approximate in my case. I kind of expected that but when way off its formal size Slim Jim started to perform reasonably well I was at least surprised :slight_smile:

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you got something that works… Dont question it, you will upset the magic pixies that make it all work! :rofl:

Alan

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Yeah, I am now ready for local chasing! Have the rig on full time FM scan when at home.

Besides, to control how well pixies work to help my TX, I’ve set the radio to 5W and a field strength meter 2.5m away. At 145.400 I’ve got 1.2 V/m, similar results I am getting with 5W HT and 1/4 telescopic at the same location. The results are in no doubt inconclusive, however give a general idea that my ‘Slim Jim’ can transmit too :slight_smile:

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Now hook up your straight key to the Christmas tree so the lights flash while you key some sweet 270 CW! :star_struck:

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270 CW is great no doubt, but I am almost ready to migrate to HF, Ian :slight_smile:

Now running around with a selection of low hanging resonant dipoles/InvVs for higher HF bands idea, even have a collapsible 2.5m aluminium mast ready :slight_smile:

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