The only worry about having a 20-30yr old radio is lack of custom parts should something like a display/CPU fail. It’s seems madness that you can more easily fix something like an FT-101 than an FT-847. But that’s the price you pay for using custom electronics… you can door more application specific stuff for much less cost. But how long will those parts be available?
(My contest mob used an 847 for 6m/4m VHF FD for many years till it developed 847-Alzeheimers and was retired to the Sunnyland Home for Transceivers that don’t know which band/mode they’re on and whether they are in RX or TX
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What I don’t understand is Icom started the DC-daylight radios with the IC-706 in 1995, improving it to give more power on 2 m and then add 70 cm stopping production in 2009. alledgedly the best selling radio of all time. At one time everyone had one, I sold mine (706MkII) last year as it hadn’t been used in 10years. Yeasu matched with the FT-100 but that used to total its PA FETs in an instant and they became unobtanium. You could buy FT-100s with no output for peanuts for a long time till someone figured out how to fix the FT-100.
Icom produced many 160 m to 70 cm base station and mobiles all with a 706 heritage. Yaesu produced the FT-847 which did 160 m to 70 cm but also had full duplex for satellite ops. Icom’s full duplex radios were the IC-820 (2 m/70 cm only) IC-821 (2 m/70 cm only) IC-910 (2 m/70 cm with 23 cm option) Kenwood were last to the ball with the TS-2000 HF/VHF/UHF/SHF and satellite mode.
The game changers were the 817/857/897 radios from Yaesu. Essentially the same radio with different PA and packing. And they sold. I only sold both my 817s last year but at one time it seemed everyone I knew had an 817 (or more) and/or 857. The 897 was the one that seemed less popular.
So the technology existed and was sold for reasonable money. The radios were not brilliant but very, very competent at what they did. With that in mind what has driven the big manufacturers to stop producing shack in a box radios? There has to be something that made them decide not to bother fitting enough gubbins to do 20/10W on VHF and UHF as well as 100W HF-6 m.
I can understand why an 857 keeps it price as there is nothing like it on sale new. Is there a pent up demand for the shack in a box or is their market research telling them something different to what we SOTA people think?
When I got my KX2 apart from the lightness and bigger display/buttons, I didn’t jump about thinking “how did I activate without this”. But after a while of listening and using you really realise just how muddy the sound is on an 817. No disrespect to the 817, it is what is and I used one for 19 years and feel “naked” no longer owning one. Since I sold my 706 (100W HF/6 m and 10W 2m) I no longer have a compact/mobile 100W HF rig. The fact I never used it for 10 years doesn’t explain why I keep checking prices of 857s! Perhaps I should buy an external 100W amp and use that with my K2/KX2/705 instead. Must not look for a K2 100W PA as it will be silly money but a very desirable item!
That means I think the IC-705 is the only shack in a box HF to UHF all mode radio on sale. I like mine but it doesn’t get used much as it has no internal ATU. The touch panel is a gimmick to me, I have an artificial finger with mine as it doesn’t work if you have gloves on, you know SOTA in Scotland! But the signal panadapter is well worth it. Without it I doubt I’d have worked Jack GM4COX on an obstructed 13 cm path last time it was out activating with me.