Hello Walt, perhaps Karl is announcing he has worked a US SOTA activation on 10M? In which case good job I think.
Not much radio today as I have been trying to work out why my 30 year+ rotator has failed, perhaps just old age 
Night night.
Mike
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Iâm sure Karl will answer this himself - but my interpreation is that he worked a station on 10 metres but when he entered it in the web page he selected 30metres by mistake. The point being made is that itâs easy to mix up MHz and Metres when entering SOTA logs (and elsewhere).
30m is a great band for SSB -itâs a shame that only Australia and a couple of other Asian countries, I think, allow SSB on 30m, European countries certainly do not.
73 Ed.
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DOOOH 
am at it again walt sorry
What I mean, worked a 10m station and placed it under 10mhz (30m) on me log that confuses me at times
Cheers guys, too much antenna thinking LOL
Karl 
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Tee hee!
73,
Walt (G3NYY)
Our regulations permit it too, Brian. (Unfortunately).
73,
Walt (G3NYY)
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So is it only the Band Plan that stops SSB being used on 30m in the UK then Walt? I realise the band is small, hence the wish to restrict the use to narrow bandwidth modes. 30m is a great band though, often used in VK when 40m and 20m are not performing. Of course the level of activity in VK is less than in EU or NA.
Ed.
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kHz 10100 10140 10140 10150
Modes CW Data
UK coverage
Interesting. Seemed to remember when took me course back in day the M3 was the novice call that were were not allowed on 30m. Seems we are now just checked the band plan for UK Novice licence holders. BUT you wonât find a M3 or a M6 on 60m thought point out. Things have changed a bit since I took my test many moons ago
Karl
Itâs a teeny-tiny band Ed which can support lots of narrow-band users or a few wideband users. As it has excellent round the clock propagation, logic suggests more people can enjoy the band if they ALL used narrowband modes, such as only allowing CW, PSK, MFSK and other relatively narrow-band digital modes. As you say, with the population of VK being 4x the population of GM yet VK covers a landmass 99x bigger than GM, then the massively higher population density in Europe makes SSB a selfish and anti-social choice on 10MHz.
Like all these things, for every case where mandatory bandplaning has an advantage I can think of a disadvantage. So I really donât know whether bandplans should be mandatory or not.
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Iâm sure it was 10m that was unavailable to early Foundation licensees. Maybe youâve switched those bands again Karl!
BTW, the equivalent of the old âNoviceâ licence is the Intermediate. You need to upgrade before you can start referring to yourself as a Novice.
Getting back to Phantom QSOs
Andy, would it be possible to have an Activator page showing Chaser QSOs that were not in the Activator log? It would show up phantom QSOs but more importantly would help identify activator logging errors caused by illegible logs etc.
Colin
That seems a reasonable request Colin. Not too sure how to do it but a query requesting all chaserlog entries for [DATE] & [SUMMITREF] & [ACTIVATORCALL] would give everything that should apply to an activator. Possibly it could be a button on the view log page for a particular activation. Of course, it wont show things that have been logged with typos in those fields but there wont be a * against those entries in the chaserâs log. The first pass may just be a list of entries rather than trying to show only the entries in the chaserlogs that are not in an activator log.
Worth thinking about.
Hereâs another idea:
In the chaser log view that shows the confirmation asterisks, as well as the asterisks, could there be an exclamation mark symbol if:
- the activator concerned has uploaded a log for that date and summit ref, and the chaser concerned is NIL?
There are several reasons why this wonât be a 100% check, but it could be very useful.
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That is a good idea for helping the chaser make his log more accurate. But my request was for an aid for the activator. At the moment there isnât even the equivalent of the confirmation asterisk in the activator log.
Colin
Thatâs right, Ed. The UK licence no longer specifies any particular modes which may or may not be used on any band. It simply says âThe bandwidths of emissions should be such as to ensure the most efficient utilisation of the spectrumâ.
However, as MM0FMF has stated, 10 MHz is a very small band and in a densely populated region, such as Europe, it makes sense to exclude modes which occupy a lot of bandwidth. One would hope that people would have the courtesy to observe the IARU Bandplans, whether they are mandatory or not.
73,
Walt (G3NYY)
Hi Walt,
What is considered to be wide bandwidth and what narrow? I ask, as another interest I have at the moment is digital voice in the form of FreeDV. In itâs default configuration it is 1.6KHz wide - is that consided too wide for 30metres and who decides? There is also a 700B mode but Iâm not sure if that means its only 700Hz wide - I suspect not.
Ed.
Correction on Bandwidth of FreeDV:
Speech is compressed down to 700 or 1600 bit/s then modulated onto a 1.25 kHz wide signal.
Answering my own question:
A FreeDV signal will be 1.25kHz wide - checking the IARU region 1 bandplan - it specifically only allows CW, RTTY and data of less than 200Hz in one part of the band and 500Hz in another part - so it looks like no FreeDV on 30m unless we can get it down even narrower than it is now - and thatâs unlikely I would say as it would lose inteligibility.
I just knocked up a quick query for one of my activations from earlier this year and it shows 55 people logged me on the day I was active compared with the 80 QSOs I logged. I can see a chaser logging error to start with, can you? 
ActivationDate TimeOfDay name OwnCallsign OtherCallsign
2015-02-01 11:06 Craig of Monievreckie OK2PDT MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:08 Sail Chalmadale EA2LU MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:10 Craig of Monievreckie OK1DVM MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:11 Craig of Monievreckie EA2IF MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:12 Craig of Monievreckie DK1WI MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:12 Craig of Monievreckie EA1DFP MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:13 Craig of Monievreckie DL1FU MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:18 Craig of Monievreckie CU3AA MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:20 Craig of Monievreckie DJ5AV MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:23 Craig of Monievreckie CU3EJ MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:27 Craig of Monievreckie LA1ENA MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:29 Craig of Monievreckie DL2HWI MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:29 Craig of Monievreckie DL8MLD MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:32 Craig of Monievreckie EA2DT MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:36 Craig of Monievreckie G4OBK MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:42 Craig of Monievreckie PB2T MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:43 Craig of Monievreckie DK7ZH MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:44 Craig of Monievreckie DF5WA MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:45 Craig of Monievreckie OE6WIG MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:47 Craig of Monievreckie OH6KSX MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:53 Craig of Monievreckie LA8BCA MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:54 Craig of Monievreckie EA8/PA7ZEE MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:56 Craig of Monievreckie PA0B MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:57 Craig of Monievreckie EA2BD MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 11:58 Craig of Monievreckie F5SQA MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:09 Craig of Monievreckie EA2CW MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:14 Craig of Monievreckie OE7PHI MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:16 Craig of Monievreckie OE5EEP MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:20 Craig of Monievreckie HB9CUE MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:26 Craig of Monievreckie DL1JDT MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:27 Craig of Monievreckie OH9XX MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:29 Craig of Monievreckie CU3BL MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:29 Craig of Monievreckie DL2EF MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:30 Craig of Monievreckie OK1CZ MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:30 Craig of Monievreckie PA0XAW MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:32 Craig of Monievreckie HB9MKV MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:37 Craig of Monievreckie EA1NW MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:38 Craig of Monievreckie G6TUH MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:40 Craig of Monievreckie EA2EX MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:40 Craig of Monievreckie EA1LQ MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:41 Craig of Monievreckie EA2DZX MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:47 Craig of Monievreckie OE3GGS MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:48 Craig of Monievreckie DL2EF MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:49 Craig of Monievreckie PE4A MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:50 Craig of Monievreckie F8CZI MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:55 Craig of Monievreckie GM0AXY MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 12:56 Craig of Monievreckie GM4YMM MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 13:00 Craig of Monievreckie GM4COX MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 13:25 Craig of Monievreckie VE2JCW MM0FMF
2015-02-01 13:25 Craig of Monievreckie OE7FMH MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 13:29 Craig of Monievreckie EA3EGB MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 13:31 Craig of Monievreckie DL6MST MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 13:35 Craig of Monievreckie YO2BP MM0FMF/P
2015-02-01 13:37 Craig of Monievreckie HB9BSH M0FMF/P
2015-02-01 13:39 Craig of Monievreckie I3VAD MM0FMF/P
Now how to tell the chaser they have an error⌠a button on the website that sends them an email to their database email address?
Would it be wrong summit entered by this one above .
Just needs to put in correct summit and be good one then.
Karl
A wrong callsign here too. (Or maybe a typo?)
73,
Walt
sudden change in propagation! seems out of character with rest of QSOâs
Glyn
Right, I have a test thing working on my local DB.
A picture is worth 1000 words⌠here is my log for Ailsa Craig GM/SS-246 for 25/Jul/2015 when I was MM0FMF/P.
Now going backwards, I get the database to show me every QSO logged by chasers where the callsign is MM0FMF/P and the date is 25/JUL/2015. We can see who is in my log but doesnât log me on the DB or has entered some other data.
There are some missing but also I can now easily check my comment. I couldnât read my log so I wasnât sure if I worked OE7FMH or OE7FMN. Now I can see who logged me so I can see my log is correct.
Finally I get the database to list every QSO logged for GM/SS-246 on 25/JUL/2016. This shows me plus others who were on the island at the same time.
Using these you can check for people logging your activation under the wrong call or summit and check the have the band and mode correct.
This update will be uploaded in a day or two when itâs a little more polished.
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