GM/SS Completion

Summit Info
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There are few twins I’m aware of in GM. One of these is Creigh Hill ES-064 and another was Carn Liath ES-020 (a very apt name as you walk up the path towards Culardoch ES-015).

Carn Liath was detwinned (or untwinned if you want) earlier this year and the former twin, Creag an Dail Bheag will be the Marilyn. The thing about both of these twins is the actual drop between the peaks is not much, 38m for Creigh Hill’s Cairn Motherie and Cairn Plew tops, 42m for Carn Liath and Carn an Dail Bheag. However, this new twin shows a very noticeable drop: From An Gearanach to An Gharbhanach is about 450m and the drop is 7m, then it plunges and climbs 116m to Stob Choire a’Chairn in 650m. So it’s very noticeable.

For those wondering when these updates will be included in the program… there’s no rush as we still have lots of unactivated summits in GM and many that haven’t been activated for 5+ years. It’s also gives me a chance to bag some of them. Well, if I’m the man who has to track the changes, it seems fair I should change them when it suits me! :slight_smile: Although the unactivated count has taken a bash in the last 2 weeks, I did 3, Paulrald G4OIGMD did 3 and Colwyn MM0YCJ has just done Askival SI-009 on Rum. I would imagine a few more Rum unqiues will be about to fall today!

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Here the currently valid summits in GM with no activations order by height:

SummitCode , Name , AltM , GridRef , latitude , Longitude

GM/NS-024 , Beinn Dearg Mor , 910 , NH 032799 , 57.7655 , -5.3102
GM/WS-121 , Sgurr Dhomhnuill , 888 , NM 889679 , 56.7548 , -5.4548
GM/WS-348 , Buidhe Bheinn , 885 , NG 963090 , 57.1272 , -5.3665
GM/WS-132 , Sguman Coinntich , 879 , NG 977304 , 57.3192 , -5.3614
GM/WS-133 , Baosbheinn , 875 , NG 871654 , 57.6282 , -5.5675
GM/NS-028 , Beinn a’Chaisgein Mor , 857 , NG 983785 , 57.7508 , -5.3913
GM/WS-149 , Beinn an Eoin , 855 , NG 905646 , 57.6226 , -5.51
GM/NS-031 , Carn Ban , 845 , NH 339876 , 57.8471 , -4.8002
GM/NS-033 , Beinn Dearg Bheag , 820 , NH 020811 , 57.7758 , -5.3314
GM/SI-009 , Askival , 812 , NM 393952 , 56.9743 , -6.2918
GM/NS-036 , Creag Rainich , 807 , NH 097751 , 57.7253 , -5.1974
GM/NS-037 , Meallan Liath Coire Mhic Dhughaill , 801 , NC 357392 , 58.3106 , -4.8061
GM/SI-014 , Ainshval , 781 , NM 379944 , 56.9664 , -6.3139
GM/WS-188 , Beinn nan Caorach , 773 , NG 871122 , 57.1512 , -5.5214
GM/WS-196 , Beinn a’Chapuill , 759 , NG 835149 , 57.1738 , -5.5832
GM/NS-053 , Carn an Tionail , 759 , NC 392390 , 58.3101 , -4.7463
GM/NS-055 , Groban , 749 , NH 099709 , 57.6877 , -5.1907
GM/NS-056 , Beinn nan Eun , 743 , NH 448759 , 57.746 , -4.6092
GM/WS-204 , Beinn na h-Eaglaise , 737 , NG 909523 , 57.5125 , -5.4927
GM/WS-208 , Sgurr a’Gharaidh , 732 , NG 884443 , 57.4396 , -5.5275
GM/NS-059 , Sabhal Beag , 732 , NC 373429 , 58.3444 , -4.7814
GM/WS-210 , Mullach Coire nan Geur-oirean , 727 , NN 049892 , 56.9528 , -5.2098
GM/WS-214 , Stob Mhic Bheathain , 721 , NM 914713 , 56.7864 , -5.4167
GM/WS-215 , An Stac , 718 , NM 866889 , 56.9421 , -5.5099
GM/NS-064 , Beinn Tharsuinn , 714 , NH 413829 , 57.8076 , -4.6726
GM/NS-065 , Creag Mhor , 713 , NC 698240 , 58.1857 , -4.2161
GM/NS-066 , Beinn nan Ramh , 711 , NH 139662 , 57.6472 , -5.1201
GM/WS-218 , Meith Bheinn , 710 , NM 821872 , 56.9247 , -5.5823
GM/WS-219 , Beinn nan Lus , 709 , NN 130375 , 56.4924 , -5.0392
GM/WS-221 , An Cruachan , 706 , NH 094359 , 57.3736 , -5.1717
GM/NS-069 , Ben Armine - Creag a’Choire Ghlais , 704 , NC 695273 , 58.2152 , -4.223
GM/SI-033 , Trallval , 702 , NM 377952 , 56.9734 , -6.318
GM/SI-035 , Creach Beinn , 698 , NM 642276 , 56.3817 , -5.8212
GM/WS-226 , Beinn na Muice , 693 , NH 219402 , 57.4172 , -4.9672
GM/NS-073 , Beinn a’Mhuinidh , 692 , NH 032660 , 57.6409 , -5.2989
GM/WS-227 , Beinn Molurgainn , 690 , NN 019401 , 56.5112 , -5.2212
GM/NS-075 , Beinn Direach , 688 , NC 406380 , 58.3017 , -4.7217
GM/NS-076 , Beinn a’Chaisgein Beag , 680 , NG 965821 , 57.7823 , -5.4245
GM/WS-229 , Carn Mhic an Toisich , 680 , NH 311186 , 57.227 , -4.7995
GM/WS-230 , Meall a’Chrathaich , 679 , NH 361221 , 57.2602 , -4.719
GM/SI-036 , Tirga Mor , 679 , NB 056115 , 57.995 , -6.9843
GM/WS-231 , Meall na Faochaig , 678 , NH 258525 , 57.5291 , -4.9111
GM/WS-233 , Carn Breac , 678 , NH 045530 , 57.5249 , -5.2667
GM/WS-238 , An Ruadh-mheallan , 672 , NG 836615 , 57.5916 , -5.6225
GM/NS-077 , Beinn Bheag , 668 , NH 084714 , 57.6916 , -5.2162
GM/WS-245 , Beinn Mheadhoin , 663 , NH 259478 , 57.487 , -4.9061
GM/SI-038 , Oreval , 662 , NB 084099 , 57.9825 , -6.9351
GM/WS-255 , Beinn Clachach , 642 , NG 886109 , 57.1403 , -5.4956
GM/WS-259 , Beinn a’Chlachain , 626 , NG 724491 , 57.4749 , -5.7979
GM/WS-260 , Beinn na Feusaige , 625 , NH 093543 , 57.5386 , -5.1877
GM/WS-264 , Creag Dhubh Mhor , 612 , NG 983405 , 57.4101 , -5.3597
GM/WS-269 , Meallan Odhar Doire nan Gillean , 601 , NH 156378 , 57.3932 , -5.0701
GM/WS-270 , Beinn Dubh an Iaruinn , 591 , NH 182392 , 57.4068 , -5.028
GM/NS-088 , Cnoc Damh , 591 , NH 270963 , 57.9225 , -4.9227
GM/WS-273 , Druim a’Chuirn , 584 , NM 827887 , 56.9385 , -5.5737
GM/SI-044 , Stulaval , 579 , NB 133122 , 58.0062 , -6.8554
GM/NS-092 , Meall an Fhuarain , 578 , NC 281024 , 57.9776 , -4.9085
GM/SI-047 , Mealisval , 574 , NB 022270 , 58.1314 , -7.0612
GM/WS-278 , Beinn nan Cabar , 574 , NM 765866 , 56.9167 , -5.6735
GM/SI-049 , Beinn Mhor , 572 , NB 254096 , 57.9906 , -6.6483
GM/NS-093 , Beinn Reidh , 567 , NC 212213 , 58.1444 , -5.0394
GM/NS-094 , Beinn Eilideach , 559 , NH 170927 , 57.8862 , -5.0885
GM/NS-096 , Cnoc nan Cuilean , 557 , NC 597462 , 58.3818 , -4.4011
GM/NS-098 , Creag Dhubh Mhor , 553 , NC 459337 , 58.265 , -4.6285
GM/NS-099 , Meall Liath Choire , 548 , NH 227962 , 57.9199 , -4.9951
GM/NS-101 , Carn Garbh , 545 , NC 893138 , 58.0994 , -3.8798
GM/NS-102 , Beinn an Eoin , 544 , NC 389083 , 58.0346 , -4.7302
GM/WS-289 , Meall Sguman , 544 , NH 023267 , 57.2881 , -5.2822
GM/NS-104 , Beinn Stumanadh , 527 , NC 641499 , 58.4164 , -4.3281
GM/SI-060 , Ben Corodale , 527 , NF 819329 , 57.2757 , -7.2802
GM/NS-109 , An Lean-charn , 521 , NC 420526 , 58.4332 , -4.7079
GM/SI-062 , Tahaval , 515 , NB 042264 , 58.1273 , -7.0266
GM/SI-064 , Cracaval , 514 , NB 030253 , 58.1167 , -7.0455
GM/NS-111 , Maovally , 512 , NC 378212 , 58.1499 , -4.7577
GM/NS-112 , Ben Dreavie , 510 , NC 261398 , 58.3123 , -4.9701
GM/NS-114 , Meall Dheirgidh , 507 , NH 473943 , 57.9119 , -4.579
GM/SI-070 , Ruadh Stac , 493 , NG 515233 , 57.2328 , -6.1195
GM/SS-173 , Carn Duchara , 491 , NM 892102 , 56.2375 , -5.4031
GM/SI-073 , Husival Mor , 489 , NB 023116 , 57.9937 , -7.04
GM/WS-307 , Carn nan Iomairean , 486 , NG 914352 , 57.3594 , -5.4698
GM/NS-115 , Creag Riabhach , 485 , NC 279638 , 58.5283 , -4.9575
GM/NS-118 , Beinn Sgeireach , 476 , NC 453118 , 58.0683 , -4.6242
GM/NS-119 , Meall an Fhuarain , 473 , NC 513306 , 58.239 , -4.5346
GM/NS-120 , Creag Dhubh Bheag , 472 , NC 474307 , 58.2386 , -4.601
GM/SI-078 , Gormol , 470 , NB 302069 , 57.9694 , -6.5643
GM/NS-121 , An Grianan , 467 , NC 264627 , 58.5178 , -4.9823
GM/WS-313 , Bidein Clann Raonaild , 466 , NH 054592 , 57.5809 , -5.2566
GM/NS-122 , Feinne-bheinn Mhor , 465 , NC 434462 , 58.3762 , -4.6796
GM/NS-124 , Fashven , 460 , NC 313674 , 58.5619 , -4.9018
GM/SS-188 , Beinn Dubh Airigh , 459 , NM 958035 , 56.1803 , -5.2917
GM/SI-085 , Beinn na Duatharach , 456 , NM 604363 , 56.4578 , -5.8905
GM/WS-318 , Beinn Conchra , 453 , NG 887292 , 57.3044 , -5.5095
GM/SI-087 , Cruach Scarba , 449 , NM 690044 , 56.1761 , -5.7233
GM/SI-088 , Caiteshal , 449 , NB 242044 , 57.9433 , -6.6624
GM/SI-090 , Beinn Bhreac , 445 , NG 343267 , 57.2536 , -6.4072
GM/WS-321 , Seana Mheallan , 437 , NG 929551 , 57.5386 , -5.4618
GM/NS-126 , Cnoc an Liath-bhaid Mhoir , 434 , NC 759291 , 58.2332 , -4.1151
GM/SI-098 , Conachair , 430 , NA 100002 , 57.8207 , -8.573
GM/SI-102 , Muaithabhal , 424 , NB 258114 , 58.007 , -6.6436
GM/SI-103 , The Sneug , 418 , HT 948395 , 60.1401 , -2.0954
GM/NS-130 , Meadie Ridge , 416 , NC 499438 , 58.357 , -4.567
GM/WS-325 , Beinn a’Mheadhoin , 414 , NG 918288 , 57.3022 , -5.4578
GM/NS-131 , Creag Loisgte , 412 , NH 367958 , 57.9217 , -4.7588
GM/WS-326 , Beinn a’Chaoinich , 410 , NG 859184 , 57.2063 , -5.5466
GM/NS-132 , Ben Hutig , 408 , NC 538653 , 58.5512 , -4.5141
GM/WS-327 , Creag Mhor , 407 , NG 903316 , 57.3267 , -5.485
GM/SI-109 , Druim Fada , 405 , NM 647225 , 56.3363 , -5.8085
GM/NS-134 , Cnoc na Maoile , 402 , ND 008212 , 58.1686 , -3.6879
GM/SI-112 , Beinn Mheadhonach , 397 , NB 090236 , 58.1055 , -6.9419
GM/SI-113 , Mullach na Carn , 396 , NG 606292 , 57.2905 , -5.9748
GM/WS-329 , Bad a’Chreamha , 395 , NG 858367 , 57.3703 , -5.5641
GM/WS-331 , An Sgurr , 392 , NG 857387 , 57.3882 , -5.5675
GM/WS-332 , Meall Innis an Loichel , 388 , NH 204389 , 57.405 , -4.9912
GM/NS-136 , Creag nam Fiadh , 387 , NC 841237 , 58.1869 , -3.9729
GM/SI-118 , Mullach an Eilein , 384 , NA 153053 , 57.8708 , -8.4926
GM/SI-122 , Cnoc Glas , 378 , NA 062016 , 57.8299 , -8.6389
GM/SI-124 , Cruachan Min , 376 , NM 445217 , 56.3186 , -6.1336
GM/SI-126 , Uisenis , 374 , NB 337056 , 57.9598 , -6.5038
GM/NS-139 , Sgribhis-bheinn , 371 , NC 319713 , 58.5971 , -4.8944
GM/NS-140 , Meall a’Chaise , 370 , NC 651119 , 58.0756 , -4.2889
GM/NS-141 , An Socach , 362 , NC 265586 , 58.4811 , -4.9775
GM/NS-142 , Cnoc an Daimh Mor , 356 , NC 533429 , 58.3501 , -4.5084
GM/SI-135 , Maol Ban , 338 , NM 683238 , 56.3497 , -5.7516
GM/SI-136 , Cipeagil Bheag , 336 , NB 247065 , 57.9624 , -6.6565
GM/SI-138 , Creachan Mor , 331 , NM 496196 , 56.3025 , -6.0494
GM/SI-146 , Sron Romul , 308 , NA 968158 , 58.0275 , -7.1381
GM/SI-156 , Beinn Mholach , 292 , NB 356387 , 58.2574 , -6.5092
GM/NS-149 , Beinn Akie , 288 , NC 341650 , 58.5415 , -4.852
GM/SI-170 , Ben Raah , 267 , NB 034019 , 57.9076 , -7.0093
GM/WS-340 , Beinn a’Bhaillidh , 265 , NM 649741 , 56.7989 , -5.8521
GM/SI-182 , Muirneag , 248 , NB 479489 , 58.3559 , -6.3113
GM/SI-192 , Seaforth Island , 217 , NB 207111 , 58.0011 , -6.7293
GM/SI-203 , Beinn a’Charnain , 196 , NF 894884 , 57.7773 , -7.227
GM/SI-204 , Stac an Armin , 196 , NA 151064 , 57.8805 , -8.4977
GM/SI-212 , Bioda Mor , 178 , NF 104973 , 57.7952 , -8.5616
GM/SI-214 , Stac Lee , 172 , NA 142049 , 57.8663 , -8.5104
GM/SI-218 , Mullach Buidhe , 160 , NG 415987 , 57.9026 , -6.3649

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Please don’t add a new ES in the near future - I’m nearly there for the complete set!
I had one summit left to do in the National Park and then the politicians went and made it bigger and added in a whole basketload of SOTA summits within the new boundary

Horrid weather yesterday and had to bring one of the walking group off the hill - somedays I hate hill walking

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SOTA Listings you can never trust them (;>J - GM/SI-009 & SI-033 went yesterday through the intrepid endeavors of Colwyn & his XYL Anne. They were attempting SI-014 also but I never heard them. Strange they were really strong on the two previous ones!

Cheers

Jack(;>J
GM4COX

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So here are the 10 oldest activations in GM. Must be time for someone to do these again?

Ref Name Height Activation Date Activator

GM/SI-019 Sgurr Dearg 741 11/10/2003 GM4COX
GM/WS-109 Fuar Tholl 907 05/06/2004 MM0DHY/P
GM/WS-253 Beinn na Cloiche 646 11/07/2004 GM4ZFZ/P
GM/WS-324 Meall an Doirein 420 02/08/2004 GM4YMM/P
GM/SI-017 Beinn Talaidh 763 08/10/2004 GM4COX
GM/SI-029 Ben Buie 717 10/10/2004 GM4COX
GM/WS-028 Liathach - Spidean a’Choire Leith 1055 12/10/2004 GMOUDL/P
GM/WS-043 Liathach - Mullach an Rathain 1023 12/10/2004 GMOUDL/P
GM/WS-300 Sron Smeur 511 31/12/2004 GM4ZFZ/P
GM/WS-211 Beinn Bhreac 726 27/02/2005 GM7PKT/P

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Hi Andy,

Maybe I’m thick (usually my normal state) but are you saying that these 10 are the oldest to have been only Activated once?

And. If it’s easy to extract - what was the first GM summit Activated and what was the first GM/SS?

Cheers

Jack(;>J

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No just the oldest “last activation” and I should have said that. So the summits could have older activations but that would need some digging about.

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The pair of summits of Liathach will have to wait for an experienced hillwalker with a good head for heights - Am Fasarinan is a good bit more than a Granny-stopper!

As for the twins - and the twins in the Mamores are really triplets! - as long as the AZ encloses both summits the matter is trivial, if you activate one summit then you automatically activate the other one at the same time, so the only question really is which way around you put both names in the database. Even that is trivial - if the GM database is prepared to put WS-074 as Aonach Eagach - Sgor nam Fiannaidh, which is definately the tail wagging the dog! - then the summits might as well go in alphabetical order!

Brian G8ADD

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Look out for GM/WS-324 next week, should be a complete for Christine & Ken if we get prop to Edinburgh.

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I often wonder whether anyone been out to put a bet on which will be the final GM summit to be activated. Any suggestions Brian?

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We don’t know what the final summit will be, the trickle of new ones seems likely to continue as the Mad Measurers trample around the highlands!

Brian

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I see Jack’s doing SS-173 today…

Any chance of nipping over to SS-188 and giving us the complete? :wink:

73 de Paul G4MD

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I will put my money on either GM/SI-204 or GM/SI-214

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I am not surprised… of course we know someone who will be rather miffed to have missed both. At least we get only half a slapped wrist. :wink:

73, Gerald G4OIG

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This means that all GM/SS SOTA will have been activated meaning unactivated GM SOTA summits will be in GM/WS, GM/NS and GM/SI. This is until the GM summit changes have been done. I done think it is likely that the sea stacks will be activated unless Adrian @MM0DHY and Colwyn @MM0YCJ are seriously planning to climb up and activate the sea stacks.

Jimmy M0HGY

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That’s not hard enough Jimmy. The ultimate for GM has to be a SSS2SSS, i.e. a sea stack summit 2 sea stack summit.

:slight_smile:

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Here are the ten oldest activations of GM summits in the database (dates are in US format, don’t ask why)

date, summit ref, summit name, activator

7/27/2002 GM/WS-009 , Ben Alder , GM3CWI/P
8/3/2002 GM/SS-222 , Duncolm , MM3BJP
9/1/2002 GM/CS-003 , Beinn a’Ghlo - Carn nan Gabhar , GM7PKT
9/14/2002 GM/SS-081 , Beinn Bhreac , MM1BJP
9/16/2002 GM/WS-249 , Beinn na Cille , GM7PKT
9/21/2002 GM/SS-017 , Ben Vane , GM7PKT
9/21/2002 GM/SS-006 , Beinn Ime , GM7PKT
9/22/2002 GM/WS-294 , Ben Hiant , GM7PKT
9/24/2002 GM/CS-001 , Ben Lawers , GM7PKT
9/27/2002 GM/SS-216 , Dumyat , GM3WGV

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Technically, these may not be as hard as we make out. Their respective heights are 196 and 172 metres, so an activator only needs to climb 46 and 22 metres to be in the AZ, I would bet on convenient ledges to be available! Getting there, and in favourable sea conditions, is another matter!

Brian G8ADD

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A 150m AZ rule. Now there’s something. Let’s hope others haven’t been allowing themselves such a luxury.

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…you would hope that members of the MT might have some idea of the rules!