I’ve had good results using two inverted V linked dipoles. That’s right two poles and two inverted V antennas with a coax switch at the rig. I will have the same set up at Mt Ginini.
To save weight you could easily mount two inverted Vs on a single pole. One inverted V broadside E-W and the 2nd broadside N-S.
I actually put the horizontal leg at the bottom, so I guess it’s an upside-down inverted L I use
It’s just a standard coax-fed dipole really, with a choke consisting of half a dozen turns of RG58 on a 100mm diameter plastic container at the feedpoint. One leg goes up the pole and the other goes out horizontally - I support the end of the “outer” on a convenient fence or a guyed walking pole. With my 7m pole it ends up about 1.2m above ground.
Limited trials suggest that extending the “outer” in the direction you want to be aiming at does perceptibly improve signals from that direction but given the vagaries of propagation that’s a very subjective assessment!
Thanks for organising this Andrew, Ed and Mike. All being well I’ll activate a Summit or two for the event. Fingers crossed for reasonable HF conditions
OK, understood. I had to do that on my 20m J-pole antenna as the mast wasn’t tall enough - I “thought” there was a slight directivity in the direction away from the direction that I ran the bottom of the L out - I suppose it could of course be in both directions. I later also tried with running the top of the antenna through a plastic loop and then sloping off with a cord to to a fence post - that “inverted-L” didn’t “seem” to work as well as the “L” - of course all of this was affected by how the band was at the time, not really a scientific comparison!
I hope to have the VP2E working for this S2S event.
It a long way out, but April-May are the best months to get into VK from here. I have worked 20 VK SOTA stations in May, and 15 in April. All other months I have made a total of 4 VK contacts from here in AZ.
Two s2s contacts with VK2IO in April on 17 and 15 meters…CW.
I will see if these dates work for me down the road a bit…
You antenna sounds similar to my Buddistick clone. Just the element lengths are different as the “hot” element in mine is loaded on 20m. Yes, I’ve heard of Lazy H but I’m sure there’s a Lazy L as well. I’d go an do some Googling but I’ve got an MT meeting to attend where we’re going to plan which of you know who’s threads we’re going to shut down next.
I didn’t know what a “Buddistick” was but that nice Mr Google provided the answer and yes it would appear to be a multiband version of my upper and outer with a loaded vertical section. The latest iteration of my antenna uses 4mm banana plugs to connect the elements to the centre, so I could easily fit ones cut for other bands. Or even make a linked version!
He wasn’t so helpful with the Lazy L, not even, after Andrew’s hint, under the category of pole dancing manoeuvres
Could I recommend a groundplane antenna as a possible way forward for you? Very easy to make, very lightweight to carry, but still has the main benefits of the Antron.
Here is an example of one of my logs from a past VK (etc) S2S event (121 QSOs, but I have stripped out the 96 non-S2S/non-DX contacts) with a homemade GP antenna. This was done with 5 watts from an FT-817. With the greater power you have available, you should be able to get similar results to your Antron I reckon:
Time
Call
Band
Mode
Notes
07:10z
VK2UH
14MHz
CW
07:20z
OE5PEN/P
14MHz
CW
OE/OO-124
07:22z
SV2OYE/P
14MHz
CW
SV/TL-092
07:24z
YO6PIB/P
14MHz
CW
YO/MC-086
07:26z
SV2NCH/P
14MHz
CW
SV/TL-092
07:26z
SV2CNE/P
14MHz
CW
SV/TL-092
07:29z
VK2YW/P
14MHz
CW
VK2/SW-015
07:31z
VK1NAM/2
14MHz
CW
VK2/SM-053
07:33z
VK3XL
14MHz
CW
07:50z
VK3BYD/P
14MHz
CW
VK3/VE-019
08:05z
VK1MA
14MHz
SSB
08:12z
2E0YYY/P
14MHz
SSB
G/WB-004
08:13z
M0YDH/P
14MHz
SSB
G/WB-004
08:17z
VK2IO/P
14MHz
CW
VK2/IL-002
08:20z
OE9HRV/P
14MHz
SSB
OE/VB-462
08:23z
2W0KGQ/P
14MHz
SSB
GW/NW-062
08:42z
M0IML/P
14MHz
SSB
G/SE-015
08:45z
OK4KOP/P
14MHz
SSB
OK/JM-007
09:01z
EA2BDS/P
14MHz
CW
EA2/BI-055
09:10z
M0HCU/P
14MHz
SSB
G/WB-012
09:25z
EA2BDS/P
14MHz
SSB
EA2/BI-055
09:28z
OK/DH1JH/P
14MHz
SSB
OK/US-002
09:32z
DG3NEU/P
14MHz
SSB
DM/BM-220
10:00z
RX9WN
14MHz
CW
10:00z
CU3BL
14MHz
CW
And this log is an extract from the first EU<>NA S2S event. Again, 5 watts from the 817 and a homemade GP antenna. Again, I have stripped out all the non-S2S/DX QSOs:
Time
Call
Band
Mode
Notes
14:08z
HB9AFI/P
14MHz
CW
HB/VD-048
14:11z
N4DA
14MHz
CW
14:13z
4X1ZZ
14MHz
CW
14:14z
N1GB
14MHz
CW
14:18z
N1EU
14MHz
CW
W2/EH-001
14:19z
LZ1GJ/P
14MHz
CW
LZ/RO-092
14:23z
YU1CA/P
14MHz
CW
YU/JS-073
14:26z
AC1Z
14MHz
CW
14:32z
YO8AZQ/P
14MHz
CW
YO/EC-576
14:33z
OH9XX/P
14MHz
CW
OH/JS-067
14:35z
F5LKW/P
14MHz
CW
F/CR-254
14:43z
EA2IF/P
14MHz
CW
EA2/NV-151
14:47z
HB9BCB/P
14MHz
CW
HB/FR-036
14:48z
VE1WT
14MHz
CW
14:52z
S52FT/P
14MHz
CW
S5/PK-041
14:59z
GW4OIG/P
18MHz
CW
GW/NW-077
15:03z
GW2HFR/P
18MHz
SSB
GW/NW-044
15:05z
IZ2YWI
14MHz
SSB
I/LO-320
15:10z
YO6PIB/P
14MHz
SSB
YO/EC-403
15:11z
GW4AZS/P
14MHz
SSB
GW/NW-013
15:16z
M0HCU/P
14MHz
SSB
G/WB-004
15:19z
GW0WPO/P
14MHz
SSB
GW/NW-039
15:25z
MW0WBG/P
14MHz
SSB
GW/NW-071
15:27z
WB8OGK/P
14MHz
SSB
W1/CR-013
15:31z
S58R/P
14MHz
CW
S5/PK-043
15:35z
F6HBI/P
14MHz
CW
F/AM-617
15:40z
VE2JCW
14MHz
CW
15:52z
MW0XOT/P
14MHz
SSB
GW/NW-061
15:58z
VE2WFF
14MHz
SSB
15:59z
OE9HRV/P
14MHz
SSB
OE/VB-511
16:03z
GW4TJC/P
14MHz
SSB
GW/NW-071
16:05z
EA8/M0FMF/P
14MHz
SSB
EA8/FU-042
16:14z
HB9FVF/P
14MHz
SSB
HB/ZH-018
16:15z
HB9BIN/P
14MHz
SSB
HB/ZH-018
16:16z
HB9DQM/P
14MHz
SSB
HB/ZH-018
16:35z
CT7AGT/P
14MHz
CW
CT/DL-014
16:39z
EB2GKK/P
14MHz
SSB
EA2/VI-029
16:43z
N2GBR
14MHz
SSB
W3/SV-018
16:44z
W3CDW
14MHz
SSB
W3/SV-018
16:46z
KA1R
14MHz
SSB
16:48z
AC2KL
14MHz
SSB
W2/WE-031
16:50z
KB1RJD
14MHz
SSB
W1/AM-217
16:54z
NS1TA
14MHz
CW
W1/AM-038
17:05z
VE2DDZ
14MHz
CW
VE2/LR-017
17:11z
W4DOW
14MHz
CW
17:12z
WI2W
14MHz
CW
W2/NJ-001
17:14z
N2NL
14MHz
CW
Four quarter-wave pieces of wire, a length of coax, and a fishing rod. It will spare you a lot of weight without losing a lot of DX.
Dear Andrew,
Thanks for organizing this party.
I have passed the information on to OMs in Taiwan (BV stations).
SOTA is still a pretty new activity in Taiwan but I am looking forward to participating the party for sure.
Speaking from personal experience. Here in Europe, Taiwan is a fiendishly difficult DXCC to work from a SOTA summit. Back in September 2011, I worked it from G/SP-004 Shining Tor. To this day, I’ve never heard it again from a summit.
Any Taiwan station activating a summit during the party, would be a big target for Chasers.
If there is a possiblity for me, i will join. (in cw …as usual)
I never had a JA, VK or ZL SOTA contact. So i’ll take my chance.
Don’t know which DM/BW summit. I’ll let you know by alert.