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What about Cross Fell?

Goodnight

PS And Coniston Old Man - Lancashire

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Historically in Cheshire? I think not!

HNY

Tom M1EYP

Yes, very much so in Wellington!

Better still, tell a man from Bewdley that he is from Kidderminster and expect the full telling down!!

Heath Mynd alerted for on Tuesday, now to keep an eye on the WX

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Matt G8XYJ

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Well I’ve got no problem with Brummies, but just so you know, I’m from the Black Country…

Happy New Year all!

Think of us poor folk locked up here!
Banffshire disappeared into Aberdeenshire many moons ago but if I were to stick to the single administrative area rule I guess I have more summits available than most (Aberdeenshire stretches to the summit of Ben Macdui and includes most of the ES summits :laughing:)

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The subtle difference to GM tier4 compared with G tier4 is we are allowed to leave our council/authority area for exercise as long as we travel no more than 5miles from the boundary. Unlike G where you are not allowed to exercise outside your council/authority area.

That means there are probably a few more summits you can visit.

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Similarly I’ve got no problem with what we Brummies used to call the ā€œBlackiesā€ before the word became verboten! The Telford and the Kidderminster/Bewdley problem is fairly widespread, for instance over many years it has been government policy to stop Birmingham from growing, so every so often they have been chipping bits off and adding them to neighbouring authorities, like Chelmsley wood added to Solihull, causing anger in the inhabitants which has persisted for decades. Similarly but rather oddly Sutton Coldfield got added to Birmingham, to their fury. I suppose it is a fairly harmless form of tribalism!

Anyway, what happens if you live right on the edge of an area, can you only exercise in one direction?

Many years back The Wirral was part of Cheshire. Then Liverpool and its environs were moved from Lancashire and became Merseyside. Much to the annoyance of many Wirral inhabitants it was put into Merseyside not Cheshire. For years many people put their address as Cheshire not Merseyside but they were more annoyed because they got Liverpool postcodes. Insurance companies use postcodes to assign risk values for home insurance/car insurance and having a Liverpool postcode put up the prices as it was considered a high crime area. Then the Post Office, fed up with poor industrial relations at the main Liverpool/Merseyside sorting office started expanding other sorting offices and reduced investment in Liverpool. The result was many Wirral postcodes moved from being Lnn nXX to CHnn nXX, i.e. the first letters said Cheshire not Liverpool/Merseyside. There was deep joy because when insurance premium renewals came up quoting CHxx nXX got lower quotes… I saw my car insurance premium drop 35% because the postcode changed, nothing else did, crime rates remained the same, risk was the same but it was perceived I was in a lower risk area: Cheshire not Liverpool/Merseyside.

This happens still. Some people have had Wirral, Merseyside addresses with Cheshire postcodes for 25 years now and they still say Cheshire not Merseyside for the perceived ā€œsnobā€ value. Except till the other day when they were glad they were in Merseyside not Cheshire. Merseyside and hence Wirral stayed in tier 3 whislt Cheshire moved to tier 4 lockdowns.

So people do have desire to be associated with old names / boundaries because that was what it was and it’s what they liked. Whereas, they should often welcome these changes as it can make much fiscal sense to no longer be associated with their old area.

The same applies to Wellingborough. The surrounding rural areas were burdened with the perceived high risk presented by the town resulting in high insurance premiums. There were lots of complaints and through lobbying the relevant bodies those living in the rural areas managed to get the postcodes of the rural areas changed.

Anyway, what are we discussing council areas for? This is just the media twisting what is set out in the Government advice… the correct term is local. I live in Northampton Borough Council area, about 200 metres from the Council boundary with one of those rural areas surrounding Wellingborough and I walk there regularly. A short drive (permitted in the advice) can take me to open public areas in at least two other local authority areas and I intend to take advantage of this to alleviate the boredom of walking the same areas.

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I agree Gerald, the term in the Government advice is simply ā€œlocalā€ and is not defined. For me, the media interpretation is useful. I can restrict myself to driving out to open spaces within Cheshire East council area, and that ticks all the boxes - gives me suitable daily exercise and mental health boost, keeps me within the letter of the law, and most importantly keeps me within the spirit and purpose of the guidelines. I agree that in your case you may have a much shorter journey to access open space in a neighbouring council area, and that would be entirely justifiable, as it is both local, and meets the expectation to reduce journeys.

Just think about poor me -

I’m a proud Yorkshireman and live in North Yorkshire, but my postcode is starts LA2 - Lancaster!

Lancashire is currently in tier 4 but North Yorkshire is in tier 3.

Usually at this time of year I head to Cumbria for winter bonus, but for now I guess I’m limited to the NP hills. Thankfully I’m close to quite a few nice summits, all within my ā€˜local’ area.

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I’m a proud Lancastrian. I live in N Yorkshire and my postcode is TS! :roll_eyes:

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Because the postcode is allocated to main sorting office not to the location as such.

Thankfully here in Scotland we have very clear advice (most of Scotland is currently in Level 4):

Travelling around Scotland

Wherever you live or work– at whatever level – you should not travel to another area to avoid restrictions.

If you live in a Level 4 local authority area:

  • you must, by law, remain within that area unless you have a reasonable excuse
  • if you have to travel for essential purposes, you should follow the guidance on travelling safely
  • you should also keep journeys within the area to an absolute minimum.
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I recall reading Scots who live in Dumfries & Galloway near the English border complaining that their mail was being taken to the nearest main sorting office and franked ā€œCarlisle, Englandā€

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Indeed. Us Maxonians have to put up with a Stockport postcode (SK), though atm we can’t go there!

CH is Chester btw Andy, not Cheshire.

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Latest…

Exercising and meeting other people

You should minimise time spent outside your home.

It is against the law to meet socially with family or friends unless they are
part of your household or support bubble. You can only leave your home
to exercise, and not for the purpose of recreation or leisure (e.g. a picnic
or a social meeting). This should be limited to once per day, and you
should not travel outside your local area.

The leisure aspect scuppers most activations. Tom you’d better only take a handheld up The Cloud and keep moving! :hushed:

I expect there to be a sizeable number looking for some loophole in the latest regs/wordings so they can keep on activating.

I find talking to a lot of amateurs is bloody hard work, meaning playing radio surely counts as exercise??

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