Much like Einstein’s Cat.
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Thank you Richard… I will have to look it up but The Beacon project is no longer a subject for myself It will not be revolving anymore / transmitting … But been an extremely interesting project also the response which has brought out the worse in me being a newcomer to the site and I apologise… as I felt deflated with such effort I had put into the project ,that said this is wonderful and informative site Thank you Geoff…M1EDF
If you click on the blue text below, it should take you directly to a document that explains how FT8 works. The blue text is called a hyperlink. It’s a nifty feature of the internet.
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To submit a final comment on the subject of the BEACON., I would like say that I apologise to those that subscribed to this subject and received a terse reply from myself…I mis-interpreted a lot that was written and responded accordingly on the basis I was under attack… It is / was an experimental project … and I have learnt a great deal from those opinions and advice that have been posted, So finally my thanks to all who have contributed which I admit not reading the guidelines of the site rules I responded in an ill mannered way at times , sometimes personal under the assumption the posts were made to me personlly which upset me after putting a lot of hours developing / constructing a nostalgic instrument as one post said a sort of"" engineering project,"" He was right with the interest of amateur radio the cornerstone of our hobby, building , constructing and experimenting Etc… Thank you all and again I apologise to all those offended Kind Regards Geoffrey M1EDF…
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I think the most disturbing part of this entire thread, is G3CWI has sent you a link to FT-8!
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It was because Geoffrey @M1EDF, in the course of the discussion, mentioned that he didn’t know what FT8 was. I’d describe that intervention as “helpful” as opposed to “disturbing”.
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Only 73g do they not do it by the 40 gallon drum??
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I Love it Don Don I laughed and laughed…We need sume humour, don’t you think , But I think we need not a 40 Gallon drum .but resevoir full…lubricate the brain… Hi…
Spelling correction !!!.. I love it Don I laughed and Laughed We need more humour at this difficult time but a 40 Gallon drum is no good , we need a resevoir full… Hi …
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Beacon Project Resurrected*
For the benefit of ALL readers and doubters of operating a Beacon, Technical experiment , construction or otherwise , Having been in touch BY POST and not email and after three weeks with Ofcom going through the conditions of the Amateur licence , I have today received written confirmation that the Beacon is LEGAL , Furthermore it can be used at 400 watt if necessary but lower power is advocated for the avoidance of being / causing un-necessary interfearance to other users and providing the accepted courtesy is adhered to, That is the necessary QRLs are transmitted before activation,
This is not deemed as a Propagation Beacon but as a technical experiment and construction of wireless equipment which has no time limit set for future use … It can be used on ALL bands within the A1A stipulation , Important it says NO band belongs to anyone but the operator by courtesy should QRL before activating…Contarary to comments on this site…Also No NOV is required as it is transmitting Morse CW A1A within the allocation although automatically… which is accepted …Finally and this is an important part to doubters this Beacon /Technical application to amateur radio can be transmitted 24/7 UNATTENDED OR ATTENDED AS IT IS WITHIN THE QTH RECORDED LICENCED ADDRESS .
I shall now proceed with making a disc with improved CW delivery and will be activated as soon as possible, Finally may I say and implore those operators that have critisized this project to furnish themselves with the legality , title of the subject (Beacon) before condemning the creator of such a simplistic technical and educational not leaving out a historical innovation that can only be viewed as good for the subject of amateur radio… I hope this clarifies the situation /Subject and bring about closure…
Finally when operating it will be emitting no more than 25 Watts.Listen out on any band , Details of times and bands of activation will in due course be put on my qrz.com page… Thank you for reading this which is Direct from Ofcom…today… Geoffrey Powell M1EDF…
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Here’s a polite request, don’t turn it back on on. It serves no purpose to other users of the bands.
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I have proved a point , there are to many Barrack room Lawyers and the project for your information MM0FMF will continue…
I think it’s worth reposting what Richard said about 40 posts ago. This is meant in an entirely respectful and constructive way:
73 de OE6FEG/M0FEU
Matt
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You’ve obviously never read what I’ve written. I’ve never suggested you beacon is unlawful, in fact I recall suggesting your modus operandi was completely in line with licence conditions. There’s been no need for you to waste Ofcom’s time and resources querying your vanity project’s status.
But it serves no purpose to anyone other than to cause QRM to other band users. The carrier isn’t GPS locked, it’s no use as a frequency or time standard. There’s no change in power during its cycle, we can’t use that to estimate propagation of QRP to QRO signals. There’s no information content sent like WSPR beacons we can use for seeing if paths are open. All it sends is your callsign sent so badly professional CW radio operators were unsure what it was really sending. By definition it’s nothing more than a vanity project. Or more accurately, an infamy project.
Again, it’s not unlawful but is unwanted, unnecessary and unneeded especially on bands below 14MHz. Go and read the IARU recommendations, they’re written by people who know something about radio.
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Dear Andy,
I told you in reply to your personal email to me 11 Nov , You must really brush up on your presentation and manners , by addressing this discussion with a mere Dear Geoffrey or other method of courtesy available and contain a tinge of courtesy that is due to a tramp also not be so autocratic but friendly… …It seems you are looking to your own desires and not others, My posts are not aimed at you personally or others on this site but to enlighten them that what has been imparted to me by Ofcom has indeed been put to bed that is the belief that the project was illegal by people posting the’yr uninformed views without foundation, , from people that were known as when I was in the RAF as Barrack room Lawyers… and I did not waste time contacting Ofcom to ascertain the facts, I wished to put the record straight for those operators that seem to be holier than thou and seem to know it ALL and remind them that the cornerstone of amateur radio is not just talking about something growing in the greenhouse or indeed CWing ,the hobby is more diverse than that and Ofcom have given all operators the priviledge to experiment and further ones interest and obtain advanced knowledge of the subject, , see the full description laid out for us in (What is amateur radio )
We should all take advantage of the licence and recognise it as a priviledge to people interested and view it’s diversity that it offers , by means of being able to experiment. . I am afraid I view your remarks as tunnel vision with the idea amateur radio is switching on and off after a qso and and anything else should be forbidden , Do you think that anything more than switching on and off is just as far as amateur radio goes… of course not and most operators are responsible people anyway, You must distance yourself Andy that all operators that choose to experiment are abusers of other users , This, as I said is the cornerstone/foundation of amateur radio and I am sure others will agree… What suits you does not suit others and to lecture me on the uses of my project is an insult , In your view you may be right about it’s uses but and I respect your views , However I implore you to consider other operators interests and what suits one will not interest others but you must contain yourself and apply a little tact and understanding of other operators interest however unpalatable to your good self,
In Amateur radio we are a family that we should be able to exchange views projects etc and have friendly exchanges and I wish that to continue but if you think that the project is useless and inappropiate to amateur radio that is your entitlement and I respect that, But please do not go down the road and tell others that what they proceed to do in order to satisfy their interests telling them what is right and what is wrong and come over with your expertise , Radio amateurs are not fools and in the norm respect each others ambitions… I for your peace of mind will observe at all times courtesy to other users but I think I have said enough suffice to say that on another fascet of the subject it is being created for personal use between another operator in the Southern ocean for reports… I go no further… I appreciate a lively discussion but I had to affirm that what I am doing was legal as the book would stop with me and some of the comments were so unhelpful on site and ambiguous I was compelled to resort to those that know (Ofcom)… My very best wishes Keep well Geoffrey M1EDF…
I have never emailed you, you are confusing me with someone else.
In fact there does seem to be quite some confusion in your posts, especially this latest rambling one. The confusion seems to be the difficulty you have in discerning that just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
I’m surprised the moderator hasn’t warned you for your condescending tone.
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I suspect Geoffrey is receiving email notifications of replies to this topic, and mistaking them for direct personal emails. This will also be why he is wondering about the lack of salutation.
Geoffrey @M1EDF - on this Discourse platform, the site’s software checks your spelling as you type. Keep an eye on any squiggly lines appearing under words you have typed for potential spelling errors. There are lots of spelling issues in your posts, and it makes them quite hard to read. Use of paragraphs would be helpful too.
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OK, I will have the last word as Moderator since we have reached the cut-off number. This is a topic that stirs up strong feelings and I think that some of the posts have fallen below the standard of courtesy that I expect of our participants. Let this be the end of the discussion. If it starts up again as a part 2 I will have no hesitation in closing it if the standard continues to be low.
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…and I miscounted! 