Oh come on ... !

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Here we go… :see_no_evil_monkey:

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I see your Big Hill and raise you:

43.73675,-70.377

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Big Hill is big, but Biggar is Biggar.

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All of these are Big Hill

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I was waiting for someone to point that out :wink: And of course Bheinn Mor / Bheinn Mhor etc.

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Hill? How about a big mountain: GW/NW-026

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I’ll see your big mountain and raise you a Big Mountain. :star_struck: :ok_hand:

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LA/SF-001. Storen (Translation = The Big One!)

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Well, it didn’t say “BIG MOUNTAIN”. Just Big Hill, I’d say that’s a hill at 356 Metres.
Big Hill in California is different, W6/NS-290 1876 Metres. That’s more like it!
K6YK

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Harrumph.

Back in the days when we had standards a mountain had to be 1,000 ft or 305 m asl. That was rounded back to 300 m asl as metrication spread.

A hill was a prominent lump that was lower than a mountain.

Sure there are plenty of mountains called hills, either by a cartographer with a sardonic sense of humour, or by ancient local usage. And there are hills hopefully called mountains, maybe in the belief they would grow higher.

The hasl is a better discriminator than the ease with which one can walk to the summit.

Naming a small mountain as a big hill is just wrong and not particularly funny. The Romans would not have done that.

Sadly SOTA cannot correct all these misnamings but at least it can stick with its prominence rule.

73

Ron

VK3AFW

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Yeh, naming of hills and mountains is pretty subjective. I suppose in some locations
a 1000 foot “hill” is a big deal. In others it’s just a “lump”, as you say. Around these parts you can drive up to 9000 feet and you’re still not at the top. Then you get out of the car and walk the rest of the way up.
K6YK

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John, K6YK,

You certainly have some decent peaks although if you can walk from your car to the summit maybe it is a hill according to the AI answer that pops up on my search???

Do you find your vehicle is getting short of breath at 9,000 ft?

73

Ron

VK3AFW

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It’s not commonly known, but this summit is actually named after Dr Samuel Big, a man loved and loathed in equal measures. He is also remembered in the naming of W4C/WM-032 where his childhood nickname was forever commemorated.

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Hmmmm.

May I offer a more politically correct explanation based on some www searching,?

Big was a Wabanaki warrior ( Wela Muwin or Big Bear) who used the hill as a lookout for marauding Europeans around 1600. There was a thriving market in slaves and young Wabanaki girls brought high prices. Capt Thomas Hunt was feared in those parts on Maine because he was ruthless and violent. The fate of Wela is not known but he apparently dissapeared during one of Hunts raids.

Wela’s Hill has been Anglicized. It apparently has no published track to the summit, hence zero activations.

73

Ron

VK3AFW

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Back in the day, Land Rover supplied alternative carb. jets for vehicles that were constantly working at high elevations. Modern fuel injection systems seem to cope better, although will still be down on power due to lower oxygen density.

An EV first won the famous Pikes Peak Hill Climb a few years back. There’s no way back for IC cars after that!

from google AI

*The Pikes Peak overall course record is 7 minutes, 57.148 seconds, set by Romain Dumas in the all-electric Volkswagen I.D. R Pikes Peak in 2018. This electric record was the first time an electric vehicle had broken the overall record for the Race to the Clouds.

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I thoufht for a sec it was one of those VW ID SUV vehicles, not a Le Mans looker! Makes you wonder what would’ve happened if Steve Murty’s jet truck ever had a shot at it!

Never forget seeing this at Truckfest in Peterborough about 35 years ago. I think the truck is still working but was painted red or something. Anyways…

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It would do pathetically. Hill climbing is all about torque and grip and an electric vehicle will do well because it can produce maximum torque at 0 revs unlike IC engines. That truck has an Avon jet which a turbojet. Turbojets only produce meaningful thrust at high revs and once the revs drop the thrust drops massively. You have to run them at high revs. Turbofans with high bypass air from the huge great ducted fan at the front can produce meaningful thrust at low revs. But neither jet can change revs fast, you only have to listen to plane on a runway go from idle to takeoff power and count the seconds that takes. IC and electric engines can change revs very much quicker making them more tractable for anything where you don’t run at a fix power output for long periods.

So electric will win on a hill climb and jet trucks are a novelty.

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We have quite a few “Big hill” in LA(and SM) as well:

However, even less creativity has been put into the naming of various “Big mountain”s:

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I dunno about that. You’ve to wonder where some of these mountains get their names from… :face_with_peeking_eye:

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