I was not an oe/ti-209, if you have logged me, please delete!!! I was on a little GMA summit for testing my antenna!!!
In reply to OE7HPI:
Hello Holger, I think I may be to blame.
On 40 I had fluctuating noise from static rain from S3-S7. Your signal was therefore very hard to copy but given your alert on SOTA I put a spot on but made it very clear that I had not heard the details of your location and for someone to CHECK.
(1215Z) “Not worked QRN S7 on 40 here - Reference n/k - CHECK”
As far as I can see only one station did CHECK and post a correction (1228Z)and that was Steffen DL3JPN at which point I deleted my entry.
At least you know how your antenna is working
Mike G6TUH
In reply to G6TUH:
Hello Mike! You have born a great avalanche, hi hi. It is to see, that most of hams (also .
all peoples!) do not read, do not hear… You know from E. Kishon the short story of " Blaumilchkanal"? (channel of Mr. Blaumilch) The Management has 3 years ago 7 summits near from my home deletet, I must go 60 km for SOTA summits, who I can go in winter. (I am not Stephan, hi hi he climbs)
73 Holger
It is always best to remember to delete your alerts if you have to cancel a SOTA expedition, for this reason. I just checked to see the alert, but I think that is lost in time now.
Tom M1EYP
Hello Holger
all peoples!) do not read, do not hear… You know from E. Kishon the
short story of " Blaumilchkanal"? (channel of Mr. Blaumilch)
True - Mr Blaumilch - bizarre and madness 8)
Hope to hear you better next time 8)
Best wishes
Mike G6TUH
Any clues on the comments line?
In reply to M1EYP:
Hey Tom, I had not made an alert to Sota with any number, only with ???.
73
Holger
But why alert to SOTAwatch at all when your expedition did not include any SOTA activations?
Tom M1EYP
In reply to M1EYP:
RBNGate maintains logs of all posted alerts, perhaps this is the one in question:
===== Thursday 13th February 2014 =====
11:40 OE7HPI OE/TI-??? Comment: [Zeit~ Antennentest, pse Rapport, werde auf über 1400 m sein] (Posted by OE7HPI)
I don’t speak German and am unable to translate the comment, but this is from the Acceptable Use Policy for SOTAWatch:
Policy on ‘Spotting’
Only operations from valid SOTA summits may be spotted or alerted on the SOTAwatch facility.
http://www.sota.org.uk/SOTAwatch/conditionsOfUse
73,
Eric KU6J
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In reply to KU6J:
…maybe there needs to be a German translation of the Conditions of Use?
73 Richard G3CWI
In reply to G3CWI:
I’m sure our German speaking friends fully understand English, certainly far better than most of us English speakers understand German.
Perhaps it is time for the alerting system to reject anything other than a true SOTA reference. You can’t complain about the draught if you leave the door open.
73, Gerald G4OIG
In reply to G4OIG:
In reply to G3CWI:
I’m sure our German speaking friends fully understand English,
certainly far better than most of us English speakers understand
German.Perhaps it is time for the alerting system to reject anything other
than a true SOTA reference. You can’t complain about the draught if
you leave the door open.
Spot on Gerald.
Mike G6TUH
In reply to G4OIG:
Perhaps it is time for the alerting system to reject anything other
What, so you can moan about us enforcing the rules?
Andy
MM0FMF
In reply to G4OIG:
The flexibility was built in to SOTAwatch to allow people to make generalised Alerts when they intended to activate but were perhaps weather dependent on their choice of summit or maybe even visitors to a region with some degree of uncertainty. We thought that this would be to the benefit of SOTA activators. It would be very easy to close the Alerts system to accept only full SOTA reference. Would that benefit SOTA overall? - Perhaps not - I think that it could result in some people posting any summit when they were unsure of their ultimate goal and as a consequence they may be recorded by those who do not listen and especially by the RBN gateway as being on a summit other than what they were on, resulting in confusion.
It is a choice. Allow some flexibility or stick rigidly to summits as registered in the database. So which approach would you align to? If it is that of flexibility then would you not expect posters to respect that flexibility and ensure that they only post when they definitely intend to be on a SOTA summit.
That is all that we expect.
73 Jim G0CQK
In reply to G0CQK:
Calm down… =0)
In reply to KU6J:
Cut and paste into google translate… simples…=0)
Hi all,
Personally, I always listen & try to confirm the summit reference an activator sends over the air, it will be this I put in my log, regardless of what is spotted or alerted.
I think the ability to alert with an unknown summit reference is a good thing, for reasons already mentioned. There should not be a problem if people listen to the activator, & spot the correct reference accordingly. Sometimes, as happened to Mike G6TUH, he was not sure of the reference & posted that an activation could be in progress on a particular frequency, but that anyone calling the activator should confirm any reference given. That this was not done for some time is what has lead to the problem we are now discussing.
The use of SOTAwatch to alert for non-SOTA activities is a different matter entirely in my opinion.
As I said in a post a couple of weeks ago, the most important thing is to listen to the activator.
I hope all UK chasers & activators are safe & well with the very stormy weather we are experiencing at the moment.
Thanks & best 73,
Mark G0VOF
In reply to G0CQK:
So which approach would you align to?
Hi Jim,
I’m that sure you know my response to that.
Personally, I do not expect any flexibility whatsoever as all my activation days are planned down to the Nth degree. I accept that doing SOTA that way is not everyone’s cup of tea, but it works for me living so far from the summits. With the need to get as much value out of my activating as possible, planning in depth is essential. Sometimes it doesn’t work out due to weather conditions, but for more than 95% of the summits that I have chosen, those are the ones that have actually been activated. When I have had to make a change, the change has always been picked up easily by the first few chasers and spots placed accordingly.
I just wonder what value -??? really has - it is not a feature that I would ever consider using. No doubt others disagree.
73, Gerald G4OIG
In reply to G4OIG:
Hi Gerald,
I do find the -??? useful as it makes ME listen for a summit reference, what other chasers do is their own affair
I can certainly vouch for the accuracy of your alerts
I Hope you’re not having it too bad in Northampton.
Thanks & best 73,
Mark G0VOF
In reply to MM0FMF:
Perhaps it is time for the alerting system to reject anything other
What, so you can moan about us enforcing the rules?
Read my post to Jim. Why would I complain about this rule? Removing the -??? option would stop incursions. Close the door and the draught stops. Simples.
73, Gerald G4OIG