Hellvellyn /lD-003; Fairfield LD007; St Sunday crag : 010Crag

Another hot day - Yesterday was 28c in Glenridding. I normally overdo the warm shelter/ clothing for the operating from the summit office so this time I threw out the summit shelter,my spare bag with gloves and spare hat. But my umbrella will stay. It’s invaluable kit and makes a quick impromptu shelter. An old climbing belay jacket also has a permanent home in the bottom of my bag.

I rarely take food but it might be a longish day so I throw some smallish oranges and a small bottle of water. There’s always decent water to be found on our northern hills.

I leave Glenridding and the masses behind at around 9;30am and ascend maize beck, though the Hole in the Wall and on to Striding Edge

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Or the plaque about the plane which landed on the summit about a 100yrs ago.

As you might guess the summit shelter was occupied and in any case I wanted to operate away from the hoards.

I’ve crossed Striding Edge numerous times and this was no difference. A short pull up past the gully on the right where many years ago I took part in the rescue of someone who had slipped on the hard snow and fell/ slid a long way down the gully leaving a long stain of blood behind them.

A few minutes later I was on the summit plateau exactly two hours after leaving Glenridding.
I stop and wonder how many people never notice this memorial to a faithful dog?

0r have read the memorial recording the occasion about 100 years ago when a plane landed on the summit.


I leave the crowds behind me and arrive on the summit of Fairfield 1hr 40’ later. And there’s numerous choices of shelters to choose from.

I set up office just away from the crowds against some stones and set up shop sheltered. From the breeze by my trusty umbrella.

45’ later I have 5 x S2s and 15 QSOs in the log. It’s not many but I’ve another two activations to do.

I arrive at Fairfield 1hr 40’ later. And there’s numerous choices of office locations to choose from.


35’ minutes after setting the office up I have 10 QSOs in the log.

I pack up and explain to a visitor why I’m fishing from the summit :rofl:. Another walker approaches and eventually points to the west and asks if that was the way to Grasmere. He has no map and his phone was running out of power. I help orientate him in the right direction -using my paper map :+1::+1: and wish him well.

I pack up and descend the rocky steps via Cofa Pike and along Deepdale Hause to St Sunday Crag, arriving 2hrs after leaving Fairfield. Im spoilt for choice when it comes to office space and go for nice grassy seat behind some large rocks. My last orange gets eaten and two jets race up Patterdale a couple of thousand feet below me just as Im copying the first call. It’s not often I get QRM from a couple of jets :grin: and I have to ask for a repeat.

An hour later I pack up office and start off NE along the St Sunday to Genridding. Im reminded that these dales were the result of big glaciers in the last ice age. I phot a patch of bare rock which has marks where stones or rocks at the bottom or sides of glacier scraped across the bedrock several thousand years ago and 600m ASL. A big glacier.

It takes me 1hr 30mins to return to my car in Genridding arriving at 7:30pm

Kit ;

A 3 band SW 1b
3 band linked dipole from Sotabeams
1 tiny Morse key made in Russia a long time ago .

2amp lipo battery which lasted all 3 activations although I do carry a spare.

A telescopic pole about 14ft high.

Oh. And an A5 paper logbook

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Fairfield seems to attract these idiots. One appeared out of the mist when Paul G4MD and myself were up there. The guy asked for directions which we gave him… then, with his friends, set off in a different direction! Utterly unbelievable.

When we activated the hills, we did the simpler LD-007/010/022 trio and left the big one for a special occasion… Paul’s MG. All from Dunmail Rise. Almost cheating. :joy:

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Thanks for a great report and photos. Looks like an epic day out.

Thanks also for the S2S from GW/MW-003. I think you might have logged the wrong summit for me, as I see you have GW/MW-040. I activated this one later in the day! It’s entirely possible I sent you the wrong reference as the heat was definitely getting to me! :hot_face::hot_face::hot_face:

Looking forward to the next S2S,

73, Matthew M0JSB

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It did cause me a little confusion. I’ll double check again tomorrow.

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I think what happened was when I was logging on the database later that evening I either misread my writing or wrote the reference down incorrectly as you called. So I simply scrolled back through the Spots for that day and picked up your spot for 040 without thinking you might have activated another summit before that one.

I’ll edit my activation - TU for the S2s and the correction. :face_with_monocle:

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Thanks David,

Thought that might have happened. I was definitely suffering from a bit of summit brain at my end with the heat and I seem to remember some QRM on the frequency, so it’s quite likely that I added to the confusion by not sending clearly!

Glad we got there in the end. Thanks again for the S2S!

Matthew

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Hi Dave,
Great report and photos. Good WX too and you made good time! I have great memories of those summits and photos of the memorials due to numerous variations of that round. Back in the days of eagerly pursuing MG, it was a great way to amass a lot of points.

Yes, I swear by brollies for activating due to their instant weather shielding attributes but I was once called ‘Mary Poppins’ on Blencathra while walking with my black one. I have broken countless and lost one in a high wind on NS-107 necessitating a 200ft descent to retrieve it. If I remember right, Dave G3SQQ guys his brolly. I did the same on Dodd Fell last week but then leant back and broke it.

I keep on hearing this. Over the years, many activators seem to have been putting people right when they’ve been lost or not properly equipped with basic nav. It’s possibly on the increase? Basic map and compass work is being ignored in favour of things that need batteries. I’m not knocking the latter but…

I used Striding Edge once but then avoided it in favour of Swirral, finding it quicker and easier to get big weight to the summit. I used to dread Coffa in winter for good reason. It can be a nightmare if you’ve forgotten your spikes or elected not to take any.

I saw your alert. Stick a ‘handheld’ in your top pocket Dave. I could have worked you S2S from the NP’s I was on that week. (Sorry, did I swear? HI)

See you at the club,
73, John

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Last year I was activating by the wall on Pen y Ghent G/NP-010. A couple of walkers went past navigating with their phone. I commented that they might be going the wrong way but they carried on. They eventually came back and enquired. I got out my paper map which they laughed at. I showed them the right way to go. It doesn’t matter how hi-tech your gear if you don’t know how to use it.

I think mountain rescue are getting fed up with the increase in rescues of people inspired by a social media “influencer” taking pictures in some beautiful mountainous location.

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Thanks John. I also generally guy the brolly but I’ve bent the handle leaning on too. I know I get the odd stare on the hills when carrying it as they aren’t too useful if you are just walking, but Ive got used to it now. I also have a very light camo sheet the size of a poncho which I can use to with the brolly to make an even better shelter. :roll_eyes:. Sort of draping it over around the brolly .

Hand held things?? I think I have two but only played with them when I first became a ham. I’ve yet to disgrace myself and use them on the hill for SOTA​:face_with_peeking_eye::face_with_peeking_eye::face_with_peeking_eye:

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It may seem odd but I have never ascended Swirrals Edge, but many times descended it after going up by Striding Edge. Since we always either camped at Side Farm or used the George Starkey Hut on club meets it was easier to do it clockwise!

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Brian
I don’t think I have either. Im fairly certain I’ve decended it. But then I think there was little fun in ascending it.

We stayed at that farm a few times in winter - in the 1970s they had a Labrador. When we returned to the tent once after an outing it had gained entry and eaten most of our meagre rations which included a full margarine carton.
:face_with_steam_from_nose::face_with_steam_from_nose::face_with_steam_from_nose::slightly_smiling_face::slightly_smiling_face:

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I remember that dog, a canine criminal mastermind! There was a farm dog at the little campsite in Nant Peris that did the same thing to me once, these dogs are crafty.

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Glad it just wasn’t us then. It must have had lots of experience robbing campers :face_with_monocle::face_with_monocle:

It reminded me of camping outside the Clachaig inn one winter. As we arrive back at the tent after a climb, my partner, who wasn’t known for his humour unzipped our tent and announced that a sheep was inside. As wondered if this was an attempt at humour.

But a sheep was in the tent.:face_with_peeking_eye: !! It had scoffed lots of food including some mince meat. It had obviously been inside for sometime as there were droppings everywhere. Luckily my sleeping bag was dry.

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Apropos electronic navigation aids on the hills; my brother-in-law (an ex-climber) maintains that if you can’t eat it, burn it or whack a tent peg in with it (you should see his Sigg flask!) then it has no place in your pack. Maybe! I know the eastern and far eastern fells intimately and the only peak I haven’t “done” is The Nab (and then only because the coll between High Raise and that top was too boggy, not because of any respect for the deer.) And yet … I have been in thick disorientating mist on John Bell’s Banner looking for the path down the curling valley towards The Brotherswater Inn and it was an old Handspring (Palm OS) organiser linked to a standalone bluetooth GPS that pin-pointed our place on the Outdoor Leisure map and got us straight to the path which was not visible down the increasingly steepening featureless grassy slope before us. (It was a very long time ago.)

On another occasion on the other side of the Kirkstone Pass, again disorientated in thick mist, it was my Magellan GPS2000 that got us moving towards The Stangs and on down to Dovedale instead of Red Screes. Then there was the time we ascended Great Gable in thick mist and settled near the war memorial for butties. That glorious view down the dale was not available to us on that occasion. A group of lads arrived out of the gloom and joined us for ten minutes. We were both headed for Green Gable and back to Honister. I said “it’s that way” but their leader looked at his map and they went off in the opposite direction. I fired up my Magellan and sure enough they were right- we had walked in a great curve on the top of Great Gable in the mist which had ruined my sense of direction. Had I walked the way I’d pointed in that mist, it would have been straight off the edge.

Prior to acquiring the Magellan, four of us (including that same B-i-L) got “lost” in thick mist and driving rain on High Street whilst returning to Hartsop from Mardale Ill Bell. We had lost all sense of direction. That was the day I found out that Ventile is not up to the task in foul weather! It was me who spotted the Thornthwaite Beacon looming up at us out of the gloom. That allowed us to about turn, locate and follow the Roman road to safety. I wish I’d had a nav aid then too.

I always relied principally on my extensive knowledge of the lay of the land in that district, but once that thick mist envelopes, that knowledge becomes of little value. I always carry a compass and a waterproof Outdoor Leisure map, but the frequently encountered combination of lashing rain and blasting wind with a map means I seldom deployed it, relying instead on familiarity with the land. This is a flawed approach- I concede that, however I’m happy enough on those hills (or rather I used to be before SWMBO began to drag her heels.) Nevertheless, I would not ascend any Cumbrian fell top even in perfect weather without my Magellan and my mobile ‘phone in the pack as well as a compass and map. I am one of those who were furious when Augmentra sold Viewranger to that OutdoorActive junk app purveyor.

Anyone can follow a compass but obviously it is largely meaningless without constant refererence to a map. In really thick mist it is nearly always impossible to make out a hidden view of the skyline in order to follow a map and I would never eschew an electronic aid in that situation. Sure I got by before GPS but we’ve moved on. Choosing the most appropriate approach in any given situation is the best policy in my view and I would not nowadays be without the choices afforded by modern navigation aids in severely restricted visibility.

I truly miss those fells … 8%(

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An excellent discourse and an excellent reason why everyone who goes into the hills should learn to read a map. Properly!!

Not everyone can and I’ve met people who don’t know how to use the compass they own.

How many people are able to measure distance travelled by timing and pace counting? Or are able to use slope aspect to work out a location on a hillside? or on a slope? How many hill walkers would be capable of navigating at night and/or , in thick mist? In a complete white out? And/or in relatively featureless terrain?

I sometimes photocopy a portion of a map and have it in your pocket inside a waterproof’wallet’. But keep the whole map in your bag!! I don’t use a dedicated satnav but you can use. OS Locate, a free app on your phone which will give you a grid tag and hight even if there’s no signal.

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A nice app. If you do have a signal, it will craft a text message with the grid ref and “I am here” message. I sometimes use that if my plans have changed since I told senior management where I was going.

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That will need the recipients to have a map won’t it? I believe that Google maps on your phone can d’drop a pin’ which shows you where you are on their map softwhere.

Yes, though in my use case it is so that my xyl could quote my last known position if necessary, rather than her seeing where I am on a map.

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