to Brian and all responsible of SOTA
In a message you said :
« You should remember that the MT did not impose the height bands on the French Association: when the Association was being formed, those height bands were put to the MT as being what the French Association wanted, and the MT accepted them. I am sure that if the French Association decided that the height bands needed to be changed then the MT would listen with sympathy »
Dear Brian and all readers also
I was not born in the SOTA world at the begenning in 2007 and I do not speak about any old french proposition. I don’t know the context of that period, and I would not speak about things I do not live. Anyway, the proposal I have done does not change anything for the french scale.
I do not think about my own church, I am thinking about european or world logical barem.
So, according to your agreement, we could propose a new scale for France next revision ? or just to be listened ?
In a message you said :
« I can see what you are trying to do with your suggested scoring system. My personal opinion is that there are too many bands, but in addition I see two difficulties. Firstly you are thinking only of Europe, and you stop at 5,000 metres. I suggest that any universal scheme should be world-wide, it should include the highest summits in the Himalaya. The second fault is that a universal scheme should have a step change at the altitude where breathing becomes a problem; either the climber carries oxygen and therefore has to overcome a weight penalty, or he goes without oxygen and has breathing difficulties. Perhaps a bonus is appropriate at this height? »
Brian, my proposal is for the world ! just to continue the scale till the highest summit if you enjoy it ! Personnaly, I would be please to give 50 points to the personn who will climbed to himalaya, with or not oxigen (it doesn’t matter). To bring Oxigen is not a valid argument to change a scale ? When you go to 2500 m, you do not bring the same thing when you are at 10 mn from your car ! the weight penalty already exist. Last SOTA tour, I brought 3 liters water, safety box, clothes in case of changing weather ect… and still a plactic bag to collect garbage of silly human !
I do not pray for myself, but for a common rules that should be understand by everybody and easily ! I still remember when I explain to Gerald (F6HBI) the rules of SOTA while we were walking through the snow the 1st may for the international sota day (F/am-333) video on Youtube! I explain the scale and then I told him that it was different in each country of Europe ! He was surprise and do not understand why ? I was a bit embarrassed ! The only reason I found to explain him was a joke ! « May be it is more difficult to climb and walk in Germany, in Czech, or in Hungary than in France or Switzerland » !
You also said :
« With regard to the winter bonus, I think you would find a considerable increase in difficulty in mid winter in the high alps! However, again thinking beyond the boundary of Europe, the MT is prepared to accept a summer bonus in desert countries - in a country like Australia there are mountains that get winter snow and rate a winter bonus, but elsewhere on the continent where it is hot and arid the winter might be the best time to climb and a summer bonus might be more appropriate. These are problems for the future. »
If a summer bonus is necessary, why not ! you have to consider it ! The rules for winter bonus should be different in the date :
Under 1500 m : no bonus
1500m – 2000M : from the 1st december to 15 march : 3 points
2000m – 2500 m : from the 15th november to 30th march
2500 m – 3000 m : from 1st november to 15th april
3000 m – 3500m : from 15th october to 30th april
3500 – 4000 m : from 1st october to 1st may
over 4000 m : always a bonus
Sincerely, if we want our activity be a success, it should be easy to be understood from the Ham who arrive and try ! Why everybody like football, because it is so easy to understand, even the idiots can understand it ! Why people don’t care gymnastics, cause to difficult to understand and rules are so elaborate than also gymnasts themself don’t know !
The major principle is : « if I transmit very high I get more point » and that’s all ! But today we cannot say that !
Again, I am pleased to get the possibilities to debate about SOTA rules in a democratic way ! I think we are far from the World goal. But as Dzianis told : « while there’s life, there’s hope… ».
Best regards to all and tomorrow 3 french stations will be on the air from Pyrénées and Alps !
Hope to contact u soon from a high summit !
Bob