The inverse is interesting too. When I operated in France, I was F/G2 rather than F/GW2. Even though I live in NW for the next 20 days…
When I received my intermediate license and foundation they always sent it without the regional prefix, so I assume its correct to omit when traveling abroad, as indeed most others do.
You are right Barry - England should be shown indented under United Kingdom with the letter M against it. England is only another part of the United Kingdom and in principal could also seek independance from the UK at some point (not likely but logically possible).
So who knows someone at the CEPT to fix the error in the table ??
Ed, I know people in CEPT who can fix errors. Looking at the rest of T/R 61-01 I notice that for other countries (like France) the same structure is used as for UK. The reason must be that CEPT is administration oriented. An additional “problem” is that GD, GJ and GU are not part of the United Kingdom.
I wouldn’t bother and just operate with the prefix for the DXCC entity we are visiting.
That’s the “new” guidance doc Walt. For the absence of doubt, it’s guidance for UK stations only and now says in 2.107 use the callsign without any RSL (regional secondary locators M,W,D,I,J,G). The actual licence I have says “unless instructed otherwise by the host country, use the Callsign specified in Section 1 of this Licence after the appropriate country Callsign prefix.”
So the guidance notes says I should sign F/M0FMF/p in France and the licence says I should sign F/MM0FMF/p in France. I noted this update/change/volte-face when the guidance was published and used F/M0FMF/p this June and someone commented I should be F/MM0FMF/p. That’s what I would have used until this doc was published!
The world wont stop turning if the wrong prefix is used. But it shows how hard it is to get something simple like a call correct. Can you imagine what the BREXIT negotiations will produce? Perhaps we should just forget about leaving…
I reported the issue yesterday and by today it has been corrected !!! I am really BLOWN AWAY at that service!!
the revised PDF has replaced the old one and is located here: www.erodocdb.dk/docs/doc98/official/pdf/TR6101.pdf
It just goes to show that there ARE some diligent civil servants in some European organisations. Needless to say I sent a reply thanking the administrative office for a job well done!
But just to confound you, the latest licences being issued give the callsign with a wildcard. So in section 1 of Caroline’s licence it gives the callsign:
M#3ZCB
with a note “Replace ‘#’ with an RSL in accordance with Clause 2 or Note (c)”
Neither clause 2 nor note (c) covers the case we’re talking about.
I registered on the new Ofcom Licensing Portal a couple of days ago. I can find no way of viewing my current licence, let alone print it out! All I can see is my callsign, the Licence reference number, and the “original date of issue” (which is wrong).
My callsign - as per QRZ.com - the world licencing authority (Maybe licencing should be contracted out to them by all licencing authorities? a touch of KISS here me thinks - hi hi!) - and ‘Sorry OM G4COX/M is not listed in QRZ.com.’ - ludicrous licensing system (though to get around this I have registered G4COX - doh!). Bit like our car registrations. Only a civil serpent committee could up with such an inefficient system - though possibly jobs-for-the-boys here .