Bungees...

Poundland have their excellent 1 Meter bungees back in stock.

(check the tag, they are sold in different lenghts)

There is an aluminium karabina at each end making them great for bungeeing antenna.

http://www.poundland.co.uk/store-finder

HTH
Mike
2E0YYY

You were grumbling about your heavy pack on a very easy summit like The Wrekin earlier Mike. So why use bungees when much smaller and lighter solutions are available?

Tom M1EYP

In reply to M1EYP:

The thing about bungees is that they are highly adaptable, you can use them to secure a mast to a trig point, a fence post, a suitable piece of rock or even the neolithic standing stone near the summit of the Watchcroft! Its true you can do the same with a roll of duct tape, but then you have to clear your litter afterwards!

73

Brian G8ADD

In reply to G8ADD:

Or use a piece of 3mm nylon rope with a karabina on the end. Lighter than the bungee, not messy like the tape.

However, I can see times when a bungee is useful and often carry one myself. But not 1m long.

Andy
MM0FMF

The thing about guying is it does not rely on there being any object whatsoever in the AZ to attach a mast to. On HF aerials, guys can double up as dipole legs or groundplane radials.

If you can elimanate all the unnecessary items from ones rucksack, it may be possible to scale a desperately difficult summit like The Wrekin without killing yourself.

Tom M1EYP

In reply to 2E0YYY:
Bought 4 of these today.e Thanks Mike, great heads up - ta !

In reply to M1EYP:

The thing about guying is it does not rely on there being any object
whatsoever in the AZ to attach a mast to. On HF aerials, guys can
double up as dipole legs or groundplane radials.

The thing about guying is that you need something to attach guys to. There are plenty of rocky summits where you would be unable to peg out your guys so you either use suitable rocks to tie the guy to, or fall back on bungee/tape/cord fixing to a suitable projection. If you are doing a summit for the first time you may not have much idea of what the summit conditions are so you need to be flexible. I carry bungees, tape and a few tent pegs, not a lightweight option but at least I won’t be caught out!

73

Brian G8ADD

In reply to G8ADD:

The thing about the 313 unique summits I have done so far Brian is that I have never yet failed to get my pegs into the ground. I’m getting quite confident about it now…

Tom M1EYP

In reply to M1EYP:

When you need to be at the highest point on the hill in order to get the best out of VHF/UHF, then it is not always practical to guy a pole due to the surrounding rock structure, steep sloping ground, etc. In such instances, bungees are great for strapping the pole to a rock or the trig if one exists, aided by a G4MD wooden trig block of course!

I’m sure we all aim to keep our backpacks as light as possible, but that has to be balanced with having the right kit to set up the station in as easy a manner as possible. The more flexible the set up is, the better as far as I am concerned.

By the way Tom, pride comes before a fall… :wink:

73, Gerald G4OIG

In reply to G4OIG:

Mmmm. Glyder Fawr & Tryfan would be interesting summits to guy, or how about the very top of Stiperstones - so much easier to use a bungee (and no tripping hazard)! I usually carry both but bungees (or maybe velcro for fence posts) are always my first choice. I agree with Gerald.

73
Karen 2E0XYL

In reply to 2E0XYL:

Those two were in my mind, too, Karen! Further north there is Bidean nam Bian, Stob Dearg of the Buachaille, and really a host of others when you come to think of it!

73

Brian G8ADD

Well I’ve never been on either of those two yet, but I do tend to be able to find pockets of peat between rocks to plunge pegs into, or even just jam them between rocks. Failing that, sometimes I resort to lying the peg on the hard ground and placing a rock over the end of the string.

There is also the 25m AZ which widens the search area for peggable ground. I look forward to activating these two and reporting back, to see if they become my first two peg failures.

Tom M1EYP

In reply to M1EYP:
I’m not sure the added weight of a few bungees will make all that much difference.

Perhaps weight loss in other areas would give quicker results.

6m colinear, 30A slab. deck chair, spare 30A slab just in case, clock, another chair, lunch, 20 feet of aluminium tubes to mount ant on, another battery - 20A - as you can never have enough battery, huge kite, spare coaxes and pl plugs, hf kit including tuners, steel tent pegs, flasks of coffee and tea, a few cakes and a sandwich for dinner - just in case there is a lift on, torch, spare torch and 2 litres of orange juice.

Or is it just me?

:wink:

In reply to G1STQ:

John
Don’t forget the spare battery!
He’s trying to get me back on the hills - I don’t think it’s to teach him CW…

I don’t think it’s to teach him CW…

Aha - there’s a deal to be struck there Dave!

Tom M1EYP

In reply to M1EYP:
Don’t forget the weight of the flask of soup - and the snack at the Ponderosa…

Viki M6BWA

I never take soup for nw042/043 - for obvious reasons.