Hi Andy,
I know what you mean! Whenever band conditions are bad (which they are at present), we seem to go back on this reflector and discuss things that have already been discussed.
It’s a shame that there is no way to find the old threads and then add to them if questions need to be asked or new information added - Oh YES there is the search box …
Actually I don’t mind the repeats - it gives me something to do while waiting for band conditions to improve.
73 Ed.
It doesn’t work Brian, I pointed out all these concerns with the person working on one RSGB revised 60m band plan was officially brought in and despite that there was still UK regional RTTY or something across the common frequencies with purely a note added later to say please think of the fact that there is an overlap with the new IARU band. I even suggested how it could be rearranged to help everyone - no changes even considered! That was a while ago though - perhaps someone else is in charge now?
(P.S. depite living in Germany I am an RSGB member and hold a UK call, so I would have hoped the person (not giving any name out) could have considered the change).
Ed.
Chaos? I think you are talking in hyperbole. I think you may have brought this up before.
Three points: 1) UK band plans are recommendations not mandatory, 2) 5354.0 and up is mixed-mode in WRC-15/60m, 3) I listen often to that and neighbouring frequencies and hear mainly continental CW.
I have done SOTA CW activations on 5354.5 and chased others doing the same. I can’t recall hearing SSB there very often. I should think we can have SSB and CW QSOs there without the sky falling in.
Guru,
I was just joking of course. I’m not actually pushing for UK WRC15/60m allocation because I don’t think we would get it - the primary user (the UK MOD) has freed up a lot of bandwidth already and they probably have good reasons not to lose any more for the foreseeable future.
AND most of the UK 60m bandlets are very quiet. Most of the CW activity is coming from the WRC15 CW subband. I doubt if I could do a daytime, weekday 60m CW activation using UK-only allocations.
What we need is flexibility by all users - so no ‘my mode only’ frequencies.
I know, Andy. So I was too.
It’s a shame that current allowances have such disparity, but I see that with a bit of good will from all of us, we should be able to find some common frequencies for us to activate and chase SOTA. 5.3545 seems to be a good one and there must be some few others, I believe.
With little time to spend on checking all different frequency allocations plus my current little interest on the 60m band due to not being able to use at the present time, I rely on some other members of this great community to come out with a good proposal.
73,
Guru (now off for a beer with xyl)
I’ve had a few SSB SOTA contacts on 5354, in fact I often monitor that frequency and often hear SSB traffic though rarely in English. Oddly enough I’ve never heard any CW there, though that may well be because I have a habit of leaving on the carrier filter because of certain nuisance stations!
I know that band plans are recommendations and not mandatory, and I said above that 5354 and up is mixed mode. Now, bearing in mind that the band plan is not mandatory, what would be your reaction to a couple of stations holding an SSB contact on 5352 or 5353? Would you be annoyed or would you shrug your shoulders? After all, “what is sauce for the goose…”
I’m not against reasonable changes to the bandplan but these changes should be made formally, not through people bullying their way to a change. If the powers that be won’t listen to individuals, organise a petition, if you can’t get the signatures then the proposal won’t fly.
Shrug my shoulders - live and let live, I say. After all, it’s only a hobby.
I might even politely break in on SSB if I was desperate to complete the activation before freezing up. Or head for 30m or 40m where there’s rarely a problem finding chasers.
Hi Ed, Not changes from Spanish authorities, it is my own mistake copying (not paste) the text. My apologies! Follow are the original text in Spanish language:
Sorry for my writing error…
Yes!! at least one good answer… Then, after read the interesting comments we can conclude, that if we like the QRGs could be as follow:
5.354.5 KHz CW
5.363 KHz SSB
Right ?
Thanks for your patience boys!
Agreed!
Has this topic not yet been thrashed to death?
73,
Walt (G3NYY)
Thrashed to death for Region 1. The US can’t use those frequencies because we are limited to five channels. CW or data must be on the center frequency of each channel.
wunder
You would have thought so but it’s a zombie topic - you can’t kill it.
It won’t die until it is resolved.
No Problem Jorge - I was surprised that Spain would be different - that said, the layout you thought was the band plan would in my opinion actually be better than what we have!!
Any way, as they say - it is what it is.
Ed.
And it wont be resolved until we have a common band across the whole world. As far as I know, there’s no further discussion on 60m planned for WRC19 - perhaps there should be.
So expect repeated visits from the Zombie discussion for some time to come … 
Well done Jorge and many thanks again!
A bit like Brexit, then.
73,
Walt (G3NYY)
No, Brexit won’t die however it is resolved, too many fanatics on both sides!
Thanks you very much Geert, see you on the bands.
73s
Jorge
