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Wow!


#1

I have just noticed that John GW4BVE has passed through the 15000 chaser point ‘barrier’, a tremendous achievement. Super-duper sloth even HI. Well done John.

Mike G4BLH


#2

Congratulations John on your "Supersloth-and-a-half"dom. It really does show just what can be achieved without touching CW, a point that John himself made a while back. You’ve proved the point beyond doubt John!

The last certificate in the various participation sections is at 10,000 points. Is John going to force a review by amassing a further 10,000 to take him to 25,000 points?!

Congratulations again John, FB.

Tom


#3

In reply to G4BLH:
Yes, congrats from me too John - superb!
73 de Cris
GM4FAM


#4

Absolutely amazing! Well done John!

Ian GW8OGI & Eleri MW3NYR


#5

In reply to M1EYP:

Congratulations John on your "Supersloth-and-a-half"dom.

Congratulations John

Terry
G0VWP


#6

Astounding John!

Good luck on the way to 25,000, hope I can help you get there - always good to work you

Catch you again soon

73 de Paul G4MD


#7

In reply to G4MD:

HI JOHN

YES A SUPERB AND UNSELFISH ACHIEVEMENT CONSIDERING THE 283 SUMMITS ACTIVATED ALSO JOHN, WHO KNOWS WHAT HIS TOTAL WOULD BE HAD IT BEEN CHASING ONLY…

GRATEFULL THANKS FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION IN GETTING SOTA HF IN THE UK ACTIVE …

73S ALISTAIR GW0VMZ


#8

What a magnificant achievement John.

I remember when I started with sota, commenting that you were the standard that we all hope to aspire to, that statement still stands today.

It is a simply astounding feat considering your activating score also.

Well done John.

73 Mike GW0DSP


#9

I think WOW describes your achievement precisely John. Not only are you an extremely dedicated Chaser, but a very active and committed Activator as well.

Many thanks for your help and assistance over the period I have been involved in SOTA. The joint activations earlier in the year were particularly enjoyable.

My very best wishes, Gerald


#10

will anyone ever catch you up…

The answer to this question is yes. An analysis of the leading chasers shows that on average, a chaser that does CW as well nets 3 points a day more than one who does not (11.39 against 8.39). However, John BVE’s score is so awesome that the CW-factor is no great “threat”, with most leading CW chasers only getting close by around 2015 (using a blunt and naive linear model).

Only two chasers look likely to catch John up, with Cris GM4FAM looking at surpassing him in 2012, and Mike GW0DSP scheduled to overtake him on 17th May 2008 at current scoring rates.

For your interest, the rates of amassing chaser points per day, for the leading chasers, stand as follows:

  1. GW0DSP 35.22
  2. GM4FAM 11.75
  3. HB9AGH 11.12
  4. G4OBK 10.21
  5. GW4BVE 8.95
  6. 2E0HJD 8.93
  7. G4JZF 8.49
  8. G4SSH 8.45
  9. GW0VMZ 8.40
  10. G4BLH 7.91
  11. 2E0NHM 7.65
  12. DL4JPN 7.55
  13. G0NES 7.42
  14. DL4ALI 6.61
  15. G4RQJ 4.17

Of course, this does not take into account any possible high scoring rate of relatively new chasers; the above are the top 15 chasers worldwide since the start of the Programme.

It is clear that the race to be leading chaser by the end of next year is something of a no contest!

Tom


#11

In reply to M1EYP:

GW0DSP 35.22
Mike GW0DSP scheduled to overtake him on 17th May 2008

Have you factored in time spent in preparing the Newsletter Tom? Mind you, I expect John will be spending time in contributing, so maybe your maths aren’t too far out.

73, Gerald

P.S. Add activator points to the chaser totals and do the maths again… how catchable is John on that basis?


#12

In reply to M1EYP:
Red rag - bull?

Nah SOTA is not competitive :-;

Roger G4OWG


#13

In reply to M1EYP:

Only two chasers look likely to catch John up, with Cris GM4FAM
looking at surpassing him in 2012, and Mike GW0DSP scheduled to
overtake him on 17th May 2008 at current scoring rates.

It is clear that the race to be leading chaser by the end of next year
is something of a no contest!

Well Tom I don’t teach maths but my vote for the next leading chaser goes to Graham G4JZF. And I reckon he will do it late this year or very early next year.

While we are on this subject I have had one or two comments about my lack of enthusiasm for chasing recently. This is only because of lack of time and my preference to allocate my time to activating. I will continue work activators, particularly on HF, while I am in the shack but time is limited.

73 John GW4BVE


#14

In reply to M1EYP:

will anyone ever catch you up…

The answer to this question is yes.
Only two chasers look likely to catch John up, with Cris GM4FAM
looking at surpassing him in 2012, and Mike GW0DSP scheduled to
overtake him on 17th May 2008 at current scoring rates.

For your interest, the rates of amassing chaser points per day, for
the leading chasers, stand as follows:

  1. GW0DSP 35.22
  2. GM4FAM 11.75
  3. HB9AGH 11.12
  4. G4OBK 10.21
  5. GW4BVE 8.95
  6. 2E0HJD 8.93
  7. G4JZF 8.49
  8. G4SSH 8.45
  9. GW0VMZ 8.40
  10. G4BLH 7.91
  11. 2E0NHM 7.65
  12. DL4JPN 7.55
  13. G0NES 7.42
  14. DL4ALI 6.61
  15. G4RQJ 4.17

Tom

Crikey Tom, it is very humbling to be even mentioned in the same paragraph as John BVE and Cris FAM.

To come out on top in the averages has come as an even bigger shock.

I love sota and will just keep avidly chasing and dreaming.

As someone else mentioned, just imagine what John’s score would be right now if he hadn’t also joined the list of top activators, the mind boggles.

73 Mike GW0DSP


#15

You are not as far out in front as that made it look Mike. In fact you are not out in front. This original data collection crudely used the daily average since each chaser’s first contact. If we just look at 2007 averages, we get a more accurate picture, although is does distort your own rate slightly since you started after 1/1/07.

Daily chaser point scoring rates 2007:

  1. GM4FAM 35.57
  2. GW0DSP 33.35
  3. DL2DXA 27.97
  4. DL3JPN 22.77
  5. G4SSH 22.59
  6. DJ5AV 19.99
  7. HB9AGH 19.19
  8. G4OBK 19.13
  9. DL7RAG 17.91
  10. G4JZF 17.80
  11. G0NES 17.29
  12. HB9AAQ 16.49
  13. DL1FU 16.08
  14. GW0VMZ 16.02
  15. G4CPA 15.47
  16. GW7AAV 15.44
  17. 2E0HJD 13.64
  18. GW4BVE 13.00
  19. HB9DOT 12.10
  20. G0RQL 12.00

Using these figures, we can more accurately project future standings, although not very accurately, as I haven’t factored in ‘drop-off’ parameters that affect some chasers once they reach 1,000 or 10,000 (for instance).

The problem with the previous results is that it ignored currently high-scoring chasers not yet in the overall top 15, and did not take account of where a chaser has significantly increased his daily average this year.

On these results, GM4FAM and GW0DSP still overtake GW4BVE next year, and so does G4JZF, but it is Cris and not Mike that stays out in front.

Game on! Except that SOTA is not competitive…

Projection for end 2010:

  1. GM4FAM
  2. GW0DSP
  3. DL2DXA
  4. DL3JPN
  5. G4SSH
  6. G4JZF
  7. G0NES
  8. G4OBK
  9. HB9AGH
  10. GW4BVE

Projection for end 2015:

  1. GM4FAM
  2. GW0DSP
  3. DL2DXA
  4. DL3JPN
  5. G4SSH
  6. G4JZF
  7. G4OBK
  8. HB9AGH
  9. DJ5AV
  10. G0NES

#16

Going back to the original subject of this thread, it is interesting to note that John GW4BVE is averaging 50% more chaser points this year than his entire average back to 2003. So that is yet another problem with my results - they don’t take account of changes in trend!

I was suspicious as soon as I saw GW4BVE dropping into obscurity in the projections. I can’t see it happening - can you?!


#17

In reply to M1EYP:
Hi Tom,
would be interesting for me, when i´m reach the 10000th chaser points, hi

dosen´t find me in that list … ;-))

vy 73 Klaus

very interesting your infos here in the reflector , thanks


#18

Klaus,

I have specially added your data to my spreadsheet. It informs me that at your current (2007) rate of chasing, that you will achieve 10,000 chaser points on 22nd November 2017.

Congratulations, in anticipation!

Tom


#19

In reply to M1EYP:

thanks Tom , mmhhh 2017 . think i have to more chasing :slight_smile:

vy 73 Klaus


#20

In reply to M1EYP:

hi tom

not to worry i was bad at maths in school too and still the same, now the only figures i look at now are on the young ladies anything else and i take plenty of NO notice hi.

73s alistair gw0vmz